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Good News Part 5. For science, positivity, puffins and daffodils. For anyone who isn't coping with gloom and doom.All aboard Boaty McBoatface!

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FuzzyPuffling · 11/01/2021 12:15

New thread for the positive crew. Oldies, lurkers and newbies all welcome. Keep the science and positivity coming.

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thatgingergirl · 17/01/2021 12:58

Oh, that's great Teen! (Still don't let him near that wall though!)

TheChineseChicken · 17/01/2021 13:14

@FuzzyPuffling

SaveWater please don't leave.

I am on the same page as you. Living in a rather remote rural area of England with a CEV husband (if he was hospitalised with covid, apparently he has a 30% chance of death, so not the happy "it hardly kills anyone" statistic I keep seeing) I am seriously worried about the inequality of the vaccine roll out.

The over 80s in this village have still not been done.
The new "mega hubs" are much too far away from us (nearest over 2 hours drive away)
Hospitals are almost 1.5hrs drive away.
Pharmacies are not suitable here (very small) and there is no indication they are preparing anywhere else.

So we are down to small GP surgery type centres only and the vaccine delivery is sporadic and small.

I try not to harp on about this too much as it is not good news, but it does make it more difficult on a personal level to hear about "we're doing the over 70s now"

I accept that this is all about me (and DH) but it IS causing anxiety and I'd like to think that the cheermongers could understand that. "Good News" is more about community and world advances - things that truly benefit us all.

Is it worth contacting your MP to see what th deal is?
FuzzyPuffling · 17/01/2021 13:19

Is it worth contacting your MP to see what th deal is?

Ha ha ha ...probably not! (Also he is probably fed up with me contacting him on various other issues!)
Let's put it this way - he's not proactive. In anything. And is a massive Government Yes Man.

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FuzzyPuffling · 17/01/2021 13:21

The local PCN have said "Not our fault, can't get the vaccine you know. We don't have any input into our supply. We'll let you know when we get some more, which we hope might be quite soon. But we don't know when"

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FloraFocus · 17/01/2021 13:25

My parents area have started vaccinating so have the right space in place. But they are waiting on vaccine delivery but have a very high number of over 80s. This number is not a surprise!

So yes it seems very odd when areas are moving down the list.

I'm just glad they aren't in Scotland or Wales though.

TJ17 · 17/01/2021 13:51

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I've been on all of these threads actually.

There's a difference between 'good news' and clapping your hands over you ears and going 'LALALALLALALA CANT HEAR YOU' any time a whiff of reality threatens.

This thread has gone so fucking weird. On one hand we're only allowed to share good news as deemed appropriate by the OP, and on the other actual facts are deemed doom mongering.

What shall we post about then? Oh I know, here's a picture of a tiny pony, that's ok, right guys?

But the whole point of this thread is so we can avoid the whiff of reality 🙄

It is a good news ONLY thread. Or it was. Seems to be turning now because the good news isn't suiting everyone.

FuzzyPuffling · 17/01/2021 13:57

But the whole point of this thread is so we can avoid the whiff of reality

No, the point of the thread is that we can share news items, reports and science stories that take us all nearer to the finish line, with additional support for people finding things difficult.

That's how it was at the start. I'm really not sure what it has developed into now.

But I liked the tiny pony.

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Bilgepumper · 17/01/2021 14:02

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

It is utterly fucking unbelievable that we're almost a year in and the government are only just now trying to learn the lessons from countries that have been more successful than us. They've got so much blood on their hands, and they'll never have to face up to it.
What part of good news don't you understand?
Spiratedaway · 17/01/2021 14:20

@Blerg

That Times article (NB it has info on the new variants, but does say at the bottom that they are fairly confident vaccines will work)

‘ Ministers have ordered plans to be drawn up for a fresh crackdown at Britain’s borders to stop new variants of the coronavirus undermining the vaccination effort.

Officials have been told to prepare for the creation of quarantine hotels for those arriving in Britain and to use GPS and facial-recognition technology to check that people are staying in isolation.

The moves come as ministers grow increasingly optimistic that they will hit their target of vaccinating the 14 million most vulnerable people with at least one dose by February 15.

Ten mass vaccination centres will open from 8am tomorrow, including Bournemouth International Centre, Taunton racecourse, the Princess Royal Sports Arena in Lincolnshire and St Helens rugby league stadium in Merseyside. It was announced yesterday that 40% of the over-80s have had their first jab and that this week millions of people aged over 70 will begin getting letters inviting them to be vaccinated.

A cabinet deal has been done to approve a three-point plan to begin lifting lockdown restrictions as soon as early March.

Areas will be put into lower tiers once their death rate has fallen, the number of hospital admissions drops and some in the 50- to 70-year-old age range are vaccinated, as this age group spends the most time in hospital with the virus.

Cabinet ministers said privately that they were prepared to resist pressure from members of the Sage advisory committee to delay tier changes until most people are vaccinated, a process that would take until the summer at least.

Instead, ministers will begin drawing up a timetable for the end of lockdown at the end of this week once they see the first evidence of the effect of the latest national lockdown.

A cabinet source said: “For the first time there are no significant divisions between hawks and doves in the cabinet. Everyone accepted that we need to lock down hard and everyone accepts that we need to open up before everyone is vaccinated.”

But Downing Street believes the biggest threat to opening up is the growing number of mutant viruses around the world — some of which might be immune to the three vaccines Britain has bought.

Last week officials were ordered to study New Zealand’s policy of “directed isolation”, where everyone arriving is charged for a stay at an airport hotel and forced to remain in isolation for two weeks.

In Australia it is between 14 and 24 days, with travellers charged between £1,500 and £2,500. The UK government is only considering a system where visitors pay the costs themselves.

Civil servants will also examine how to emulate a scheme in Poland, where those told to isolate are subject to “enhanced monitoring”. Each person is contacted once a day and told to send a photograph of themselves at the location where they are confined. These are cross-referenced using GPS data and facial-recognition software. Those who fail to comply within 20 minutes receive a visit from police.

It is understood that ministers discussed both ideas at a meeting on Thursday. A senior government source said that, if used, this technology would be confined to new arrivals in the UK, not those told to self-isolate who are already here.

The plans go further than changes announced last week that require everyone coming to the UK to produce a negative Covid test. “Air corridors”, which allowed some people to come in more easily, were scrapped.

Cabinet sources said Matt Hancock, the health secretary, floated a moratorium on all international travel for a month, to stop new variants in their tracks, but faced resistance from Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, on the grounds it would cripple trade.

The mass vaccination centres will boost the total number of large-scale centres delivering the jabs to 17 and ensure at least one is located in each health region so that rural parts of the country such as Boston in Lincolnshire and Norwich were within reach of one.

The other super-hubs opening are Blackburn Cathedral in Lancashire, Salt Hill Activity Centre in Slough, Norwich Foodcourt, the Lodge in Wickford in Essex, the park and ride at Askham Bar, York, and the Olympic Office Centre, in Wembley, northwest London.

In a rapid acceleration of the vaccine drive, dozens of pharmacies will begin offering the first dose of the jab from tomorrow.

Hancock urged people to commit to three pledges to “help out”, “join up” and “stay informed” during the efforts to vaccinate, run clinical trials and share accurate health advice.

Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, warned the government against lifting the restrictions too quickly. Hopson said: “We need to be careful about saying that just because people have been vaccinated the spread won’t happen and therefore we can pull off all restrictions on social contact immediately.”

One member of Sage said yesterday: “If the government opens up without having driven it [the number of virus cases] towards zero, and without a good test, trace and isolate system, the virus is going to bounce back. If we are not extremely careful, we’re could see yo-yo lockdowns for some time.”

Professor Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, said there would be lots of new variants this year, but the current vaccines should protect against the strains circulating in the UK.

In a tweet last night, Robert Courts, the aviation minister, announced a scheme to offer grants to airports and ground operations under pressure from the reduction in travel.’

When was this in the paper ? X
Spiratedaway · 17/01/2021 14:23

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel this is a good news thread to get away from the fucking negativity in other threads /people mental health is suffering only last night some I know killed them selves so please feel free to ... you know .. do one to another thread ta ta

Spiratedaway · 17/01/2021 14:24

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I was just reacting to the Times piece someone posted above. We're still allowed to acknowledge reality surely?

This thread was fucking great at the start and now it's getting really weird.

Please go away !!!
DobbyTheHouseElk · 17/01/2021 14:55

This thread has gone weird, my head hurts.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 17/01/2021 15:05

@Welikebeingcosy

My grandma is over 80 and still waiting for her vaccine. It doesn't bother me to see 70 year olds' relatives celebrating their vaccinations. It fills me with cheer to hear about actual people have gotten their vaccines and to know that some places have been able to move onto the next group. Not sure why it is so slow where we live- but hopefully it will speed up!
I am wondering if it is because of plans to open mass vaccination centres in some places. Therefore they are setting up less small ones there.

Also obviously some areas are just more rural. So logistics are trick but cases tend to be lower. Therefore less of a rush.

Whatever the reason once they get started it is all pretty quick. The hubs opened up around my borough only 3 weeks ago. Today there is a social media message from the council going around. It says people over 70 and those in group 4 will be getting letters next week Smile

ChristmasinJune · 17/01/2021 15:08

I like the tiny pony, does he sniff out Covid like the dogs?
And how are those dogs getting along? Does anybody know?

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 17/01/2021 15:12

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I've been on all of these threads actually.

There's a difference between 'good news' and clapping your hands over you ears and going 'LALALALLALALA CANT HEAR YOU' any time a whiff of reality threatens.

This thread has gone so fucking weird. On one hand we're only allowed to share good news as deemed appropriate by the OP, and on the other actual facts are deemed doom mongering.

What shall we post about then? Oh I know, here's a picture of a tiny pony, that's ok, right guys?

The cute little pony picture works for me Grin

That is so adorableStar

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 17/01/2021 15:23

Come on people we come here have a spark of joy not to argueSad

So many things in the news to be happy about at the moment.

Even on the boards last night the best the doom mongers could do was moaning about a few jabs being given to people not in first couple of groups. I think some of them would prefer left over binned Hmm

Autumn101 · 17/01/2021 15:23

Just found this thread!!

My parents were vaccinated yesterday - both in the 70-75 bracket so hadn’t been expecting it so soon. It was really well organised and efficient, I’m so relieved as my Dad was starting to get quite anxious (he has heart failure which is well managed but still a worry).

My lovely next door neighbour has also had her first vaccination, she’s on her own and I would guess 85+. We’ve only lived here for a couple of months and she writes me little notes and cards telling me things about the area and that she loves to hear the DC playing on the garden or me singing to the radio in the kitchen - it’s a highlight of my week to get them!

FifeQuine · 17/01/2021 15:25

I posted in this thread this week about my parents vaccines, I saw that there was a request not to do that and as I'm new, I thought, OK, I can understand that. I'm in Scotland, my the way.

Then today I see a post that says "I'm glad they're not in Scotland or Wales"!

"Good news" has gone a bit weird, that's for sure.

FloraFocus · 17/01/2021 15:30

Sorry I was getting a nark on with poster bringing in politics FifeQuine. Apologies.

InterfectoremVulpes · 17/01/2021 15:31

Zoe app estimating 43 469 cases down from approx 53k 2 days ago

thatgingergirl · 17/01/2021 15:32

Little notes from your neighbour Autumn101 - that's lovely and welcoming!

Truely - I ventured an opinion on that thread. And have backed away ........!

chri55ie · 17/01/2021 15:35

That’s an amazing reduction in cases @InterfectoremVulpes

BigWoollyJumpers · 17/01/2021 15:36

other actual facts are deemed doom mongering

Other actual "opinions" (because they are not always facts lets face it), should be confined to the other many, many, many, threads of complaining how shit everything is.

This thread is for finding the good news, which isn't necessarily front page, because good news doesn't sell, and bringing it to general attention. Let's keep it like that.

Boredsillyathome · 17/01/2021 15:37

My grandparents are in Stirling, Scotland, my grandad has lung cancer and is having radiotherapy atm, they have been told by the doctors they will get the vaccine hopefully next week, my granny is 91 next week so a great birthday present!

tobee · 17/01/2021 15:37

I think things are just getting incredibly very personal and tense for people in rl. It's bound to be that people are getting a bit scratchy with each other (as my dm would say!)

To be fair @IncludeWomenInTheSequel has posted some lovely things on this thread. We have posted less than good news things on here before and then reined ourselves in.

Posting about individuals being vaccinated is tricky. I did say about my parents I think as others were doing. I don't want to upset anyone but it will be really hard not to mention when cev Dh gets the vaccine; especially as I'm constantly being asked by relatives and friends if he's heard. And my two adult dc who live here have been amazing at shielding him too! It makes me feel a bit tearful just thinking about it.

Anyway, sensitive times and sensitive topics. We have prided ourselves on this thread on being supportive of everyone if possible.