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Good News Part 5. For science, positivity, puffins and daffodils. For anyone who isn't coping with gloom and doom.All aboard Boaty McBoatface!

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FuzzyPuffling · 11/01/2021 12:15

New thread for the positive crew. Oldies, lurkers and newbies all welcome. Keep the science and positivity coming.

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TJ17 · 17/01/2021 10:32

But other areas getting getting down to the over 70s is still good for the country as a whole.

I think we need to keep in mind that it's a team effort and we shouldn't start getting bitter about who's getting what and when.

My DN got Covid 5 days before her vaccination was booked. However I don't want the entire country to stop getting vaccinated and wait for her to recover and have hers! She'll get it eventually as will everyone else.

The more people that are vaccinated the safer everyone else will be even if not vaccinated.

scotlandg · 17/01/2021 10:47

I love hearing about the different groups having jabs. I guess it makes it all seem like it's progressing the best way. But I can understand why some might not.

Blerg · 17/01/2021 10:47

I agree it does benefit everyone for every single jab. But I also am slightly despairing my Dad (over 80) hasn’t heard yet. Suffolk seem really slow compared to some places.

But, keeping it positive, this has info about the 10 new large vaccine hubs and also some info about plans for easing from March. It is beyond Times paywall but I’ll see if I can find it... www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/all-arrivals-to-uk-face-hotel-quarantine-to-stop-new-covid-strains-qgl5q3dkk

theotherfossilsister · 17/01/2021 10:48

@tobee please start that thread. There was a lovely one about dinners out yesterday and what people missed about the experience. Only one person saying 'how dare you, don't you know there's a pandemic.'

Blerg · 17/01/2021 10:49

That Times article (NB it has info on the new variants, but does say at the bottom that they are fairly confident vaccines will work)

‘ Ministers have ordered plans to be drawn up for a fresh crackdown at Britain’s borders to stop new variants of the coronavirus undermining the vaccination effort.

Officials have been told to prepare for the creation of quarantine hotels for those arriving in Britain and to use GPS and facial-recognition technology to check that people are staying in isolation.

The moves come as ministers grow increasingly optimistic that they will hit their target of vaccinating the 14 million most vulnerable people with at least one dose by February 15.

Ten mass vaccination centres will open from 8am tomorrow, including Bournemouth International Centre, Taunton racecourse, the Princess Royal Sports Arena in Lincolnshire and St Helens rugby league stadium in Merseyside. It was announced yesterday that 40% of the over-80s have had their first jab and that this week millions of people aged over 70 will begin getting letters inviting them to be vaccinated.

A cabinet deal has been done to approve a three-point plan to begin lifting lockdown restrictions as soon as early March.

Areas will be put into lower tiers once their death rate has fallen, the number of hospital admissions drops and some in the 50- to 70-year-old age range are vaccinated, as this age group spends the most time in hospital with the virus.

Cabinet ministers said privately that they were prepared to resist pressure from members of the Sage advisory committee to delay tier changes until most people are vaccinated, a process that would take until the summer at least.

Instead, ministers will begin drawing up a timetable for the end of lockdown at the end of this week once they see the first evidence of the effect of the latest national lockdown.

A cabinet source said: “For the first time there are no significant divisions between hawks and doves in the cabinet. Everyone accepted that we need to lock down hard and everyone accepts that we need to open up before everyone is vaccinated.”

But Downing Street believes the biggest threat to opening up is the growing number of mutant viruses around the world — some of which might be immune to the three vaccines Britain has bought.

Last week officials were ordered to study New Zealand’s policy of “directed isolation”, where everyone arriving is charged for a stay at an airport hotel and forced to remain in isolation for two weeks.

In Australia it is between 14 and 24 days, with travellers charged between £1,500 and £2,500. The UK government is only considering a system where visitors pay the costs themselves.

Civil servants will also examine how to emulate a scheme in Poland, where those told to isolate are subject to “enhanced monitoring”. Each person is contacted once a day and told to send a photograph of themselves at the location where they are confined. These are cross-referenced using GPS data and facial-recognition software. Those who fail to comply within 20 minutes receive a visit from police.

It is understood that ministers discussed both ideas at a meeting on Thursday. A senior government source said that, if used, this technology would be confined to new arrivals in the UK, not those told to self-isolate who are already here.

The plans go further than changes announced last week that require everyone coming to the UK to produce a negative Covid test. “Air corridors”, which allowed some people to come in more easily, were scrapped.

Cabinet sources said Matt Hancock, the health secretary, floated a moratorium on all international travel for a month, to stop new variants in their tracks, but faced resistance from Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, on the grounds it would cripple trade.

The mass vaccination centres will boost the total number of large-scale centres delivering the jabs to 17 and ensure at least one is located in each health region so that rural parts of the country such as Boston in Lincolnshire and Norwich were within reach of one.

The other super-hubs opening are Blackburn Cathedral in Lancashire, Salt Hill Activity Centre in Slough, Norwich Foodcourt, the Lodge in Wickford in Essex, the park and ride at Askham Bar, York, and the Olympic Office Centre, in Wembley, northwest London.

In a rapid acceleration of the vaccine drive, dozens of pharmacies will begin offering the first dose of the jab from tomorrow.

Hancock urged people to commit to three pledges to “help out”, “join up” and “stay informed” during the efforts to vaccinate, run clinical trials and share accurate health advice.

Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, warned the government against lifting the restrictions too quickly. Hopson said: “We need to be careful about saying that just because people have been vaccinated the spread won’t happen and therefore we can pull off all restrictions on social contact immediately.”

One member of Sage said yesterday: “If the government opens up without having driven it [the number of virus cases] towards zero, and without a good test, trace and isolate system, the virus is going to bounce back. If we are not extremely careful, we’re could see yo-yo lockdowns for some time.”

Professor Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, said there would be lots of new variants this year, but the current vaccines should protect against the strains circulating in the UK.

In a tweet last night, Robert Courts, the aviation minister, announced a scheme to offer grants to airports and ground operations under pressure from the reduction in travel.’

MarshaBradyo · 17/01/2021 10:54

@TJ17

But other areas getting getting down to the over 70s is still good for the country as a whole.

I think we need to keep in mind that it's a team effort and we shouldn't start getting bitter about who's getting what and when.

My DN got Covid 5 days before her vaccination was booked. However I don't want the entire country to stop getting vaccinated and wait for her to recover and have hers! She'll get it eventually as will everyone else.

The more people that are vaccinated the safer everyone else will be even if not vaccinated.

I know but if it causes anyone anxiety on this brilliant thread I think best left off imo
TJ17 · 17/01/2021 11:04

I'm just trying to say they shouldn't feel anxiety about it.

What would be more anxiety inducing would be if the whole country wasn't getting the over 80's vaccinated.

MarshaBradyo · 17/01/2021 11:10

I don’t think we can say how people should react emotionally and I’d like to keep this a nice place for everyone

I know what you’re saying but I think we can do this one thing?

Pomegranatespompom · 17/01/2021 11:11

It’s nice for people to be happy on here and share imo but wouldn’t want people to be upset.
@tobee @theotherfossilsister people go barmy about talking about holidays too - apparently we’re lucky if that’s all we have to worry about. I can’t wait to hear the positive news that we can holiday overseas again but it doesn’t mean I don’t have other stresses. Competitive misery is exhausting.

MarshaBradyo · 17/01/2021 11:11

I also like this non combative space which is very rare on here so I’m not trying to be difficult and can see you’re not either

FourTeaFallOut · 17/01/2021 11:12

That was so interesting to read, thanks Blerg. It's so nice to hear the mass centres which are opening up from tomorrow and the dozens of pharmacies - I wonder what the figures will look like on Tuesday?

I think today's news about the enforced quarantine might be the tipping point from talking about booking UK holidays to just getting it done before there's a swell on demand (and before forest holidays gets chance to inflate the prices!)

Pomegranatespompom · 17/01/2021 11:19

Amazing if adults can be done by end of June. People will work +++ hours

@MarshaBradyo it’s so refreshing on here - I’ve not ventured off on to the other C threads and I feel much better for it.

TJ17 · 17/01/2021 11:21

I'm not trying to be argumentative either but the thing is this is a positive news thread and people are going to keep finding it and posting their positive news and they aren't going to be aware of the rule that they cannot post about it.

Therefore it's going to make them feel shit when they keep getting called out on posting it and the news has already been shared anyway by that points.

Let's just try and be happy for others and not put people off posting incase they post the wrong thing

BBCONEANDTWO · 17/01/2021 11:30

@TJ17

I'm not trying to be argumentative either but the thing is this is a positive news thread and people are going to keep finding it and posting their positive news and they aren't going to be aware of the rule that they cannot post about it.

Therefore it's going to make them feel shit when they keep getting called out on posting it and the news has already been shared anyway by that points.

Let's just try and be happy for others and not put people off posting incase they post the wrong thing

^^This.
SaveWaterDrinkGin · 17/01/2021 11:38

I guess I better leave this thread then as it’s clearly not for me.

Thanks everyone and best wishes.

MarshaBradyo · 17/01/2021 11:39

@SaveWaterDrinkGin

I guess I better leave this thread then as it’s clearly not for me.

Thanks everyone and best wishes.

Sad

Maybe we could edit op so people who don’t read thread get a heads up

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 17/01/2021 11:52

It is utterly fucking unbelievable that we're almost a year in and the government are only just now trying to learn the lessons from countries that have been more successful than us. They've got so much blood on their hands, and they'll never have to face up to it.

BigWoollyJumpers · 17/01/2021 11:53

Telegraph today. Just in case you can't access a short piece under, and reporting that Britain will be able to vaccinate nation against new Covid strains within months after new super-factory opens:

*Currently under construction at the Harwell Science & Innovation Campus in Oxfordshire, the VMIC was first conceived in 2018 and originally planned to open in 2022. When the Covid pandemic struck, the UK government pumped a further £131 million into the not-for-profit company to bring the project forward by a year.

The centre is already helping to manufacture the Oxford vaccine by lending expertise and giant bioreactors to the AstraZeneca team and its partners*

I'm all for government bashing when stuff goes wrong, but again, nice to see monetary support for non-profit enterprises, which will protect the country going forward. Another hurrah for scientists in UK.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 17/01/2021 11:53

You know, I think anyone who doesn't like the 'woohoo someone I love has been vaccinated' posts should just scroll on by.

🤷🏻‍♀️

FourTeaFallOut · 17/01/2021 11:54

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

It is utterly fucking unbelievable that we're almost a year in and the government are only just now trying to learn the lessons from countries that have been more successful than us. They've got so much blood on their hands, and they'll never have to face up to it.
Am I lost? This is still the good news thread, right?
BBCONEANDTWO · 17/01/2021 11:57

@BigWoollyJumpers

Telegraph today. Just in case you can't access a short piece under, and reporting that Britain will be able to vaccinate nation against new Covid strains within months after new super-factory opens:

*Currently under construction at the Harwell Science & Innovation Campus in Oxfordshire, the VMIC was first conceived in 2018 and originally planned to open in 2022. When the Covid pandemic struck, the UK government pumped a further £131 million into the not-for-profit company to bring the project forward by a year.

The centre is already helping to manufacture the Oxford vaccine by lending expertise and giant bioreactors to the AstraZeneca team and its partners*

I'm all for government bashing when stuff goes wrong, but again, nice to see monetary support for non-profit enterprises, which will protect the country going forward. Another hurrah for scientists in UK.

I have to admit I've been really really impressed with this vaccine roll out and am so happy about it. Thank goodness we've got this and it's working well - what a nation when we all work together.
FourTeaFallOut · 17/01/2021 11:59

I'm not sure how you would stop people posting about people who have had the vaccine. There's not really a mechanism for that on MN. Even if you put it in the op, most people see a thread title and off they post. It's not malicious, it just their good news.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 17/01/2021 12:00

I was just reacting to the Times piece someone posted above. We're still allowed to acknowledge reality surely?

This thread was fucking great at the start and now it's getting really weird.

TheKeatingFive · 17/01/2021 12:00

You know, I think anyone who doesn't like the 'woohoo someone I love has been vaccinated' posts should just scroll on by.

I agree. Every vaccination is good for the country as a whole.

Peggyslantern · 17/01/2021 12:09

Afternoon all. I am finding things really hard but I keep thinking that every hard day that we get through actually counts for something in that it brings us a step closer to normality. I am loving thinking of how many hundreds of thousands have been jabbed in each single day. And it's sunny here too after days of awful grey bleurgh.