How are people still catching the virus?

[Baileysforchristmas]

Numbers are still so high, are people catching it from supermarkets? Does 2 metres apart still stop you catching it? Are you still pretty safe outside if you stay at least 2 metres apart?

i dont know what people in this country want-shocked that the cases are so high yet say we cant force mask wearing like other countries who have lower death rates

If someone is just been artsy by not wearing a mask they can stand with fellow risk takers ! If someone has a medical complaint perhaps they could wear a visor as protection, at least it offers a small degree of protection

@GlitterSandcastle

Aerosols.

A.E.R.O.S.O.L.S

Aerosols

Yes. For 3 hours. Think how many people have walked through that hospital corridor or the supermarket aisle before you. Or your costa coffee

We've got a fair few Covid cases in my primary aged school already one week back. Lots of kids in too - way too many. All the staff just feel like it's a matter of time. Shame some of the parents don't feel that too. But I guess standing in a classroom 6 hours a day with 4 staff and 25 students makes you think about it.

These are latest figures for nursery and early year settings but don’t include most recent

From the workplace. Too many classed as keywords and not a strict enough lockdown. People thinking that once they have been vaccinated, they are immortal, whereas they will turn in to the ones who are spreading it because they will relax even though they will still carry the virus, just not show any symptoms. We'll be going on like this for a LONG time yet.

@starlight13

From the workplace. Too many classed as keywords and not a strict enough lockdown. People thinking that once they have been vaccinated, they are immortal, whereas they will turn in to the ones who are spreading it because they will relax even though they will still carry the virus, just not show any symptoms. We'll be going on like this for a LONG time yet.

If people wants businesses to close then they have to be prepared to pay for the business support grants that need to be paid. There are 3 million self employed who've been excluded from support, so they have no option but to stay operational just to pay their bills. Likewise lots of businesses have received furlough to pay towards staff costs and grants to pay towards rent and utilities for their business premises, but nothing to cover their own loss of income - that can't go on forever.

Yes ABSOLUTELY aerosols. Ask any doctor.

I've caught it from my husband and god knows where he got it as he is a farmer and spends 90%of his time outside on his own
He could have picked it up from a petrol station as that's the only place he has really been away from the farm.

Of cases I have heard of today from colleagues

Work x 2 different people ( office and on a construction site )
Supermarket ( because that person had not been anywhere else)

The big surge we're getting now is from Christmas and New year and people being less careful.School was closed the week before Christmas so can't be a factor in this increase.
Lots of NHS staff are dispensible off,quite a lot due to track and trace contacts and some with Covid,again probably Christmas)New year as ppe hasn't suddenly become less effective and the new variant was here before Christmas.
We're all sort of following the rules but no t quite.For example I'd got back into the habit of popping out to the supermarket for odd items(albeit at quiet times),now I'm getting back to a weekly shop just picking up milk when I get petrol.
Also the roads around here are just as busy as prelockdown.
We need to be a bit more careful for a while and remember the hospital cases are 3 weeks after they catch it.

The infection rate in my area is just starting to fall, so lockdown is starting to work, I think it must’ve been a combination of schools and Christmas gatherings, a small amount in supermarkets, i’m so relieved as our hospital is really struggling, I’m hoping in the next couple of weeks the admissions to hospital will start to slow down.

Again for those at the back aerosols. Any room with someone who’s walked through with covid will have to for 3hours.

We will look back in year to come saying WTAF were we do giving health care staff surgical masks not FP3 masks. Just to avoid saying “we don’t have enough/can’t afford them” to look in control as a government

Just heard that a colleague has tested positive. He definitely caught it during a brief visit to his local shop as he literally hasn't been anywhere else. His wife is shielding so they go nowhere and see no one.

My train to work last night was so busy I couldn’t get a seat. This is central London. Mask wearing about 75% compliance I would say.

Tested positive this week and the only place I've been to was to do a food shop once so far this Jan or a walk outside with the kids.

School was closed the week before Christmas so can't be a factor in this increase.

Not for many. We were still at school on the 22nd. We'd expected low numbers that week but my class had 21 out of 23 children on the last day in a school with generally quite low attendance.

35 people isolating at my work site in construction 10 positive cases so far . I can see how the numbers aren’t going down . Construction workers travel all over the county often sharing vans with 3 or 4 ppl from different households . Until they shut this down it’s not getting any better .

School outbreaks in last week of term, some asymptomatic chn passed to parents who then mixed on Christmas Day. If it takes 5/6 days to show symptoms, the people in hospital now could have been infected at Christmas.

Also being able to meet one other outside. Difficult to stay apart in paths etc. Obviously this new variant is so easily transmitted.

The fact university still has first year students in busy nhs offices that could work from home but aren't. Then there's an outbreak on the ward downstairs, some students work the bank and various other staff then continue to work in the office.

When students complain to uni, as I in particular am pregnant and vulnerable (hence why I was placed in an office) I'm told I'm probably in the wrong profession.

No I'm not, I'm probably just scared of putting my unborn baby, who's already at risk, at extra risk.

Rant over.

But that's how I've seen it spread in just one week half of my office has tested positive

Oh and families still mixing claiming they're in each other's bubble?

Some people not believing there is an actual virus and refusing to stop mixing.

A local ish medical director at a hospital here gives a weekly update on the hospital situation.
Currently there are 152 people in hospital with covid (within 14 days of a positive test). He then went on to say when you add on people who received their first positive test in hospital that becomes 255.
So 103 people caught it on our local hospital.
That's 40 percent of people in there with it, caught it there.

Universities have entire floors of empty flats, but are still having students fully occupy other flats, all sharing tiny kitchens and bathrooms, sometimes up to 14 students per flat. When students ask if there are other flats to move to, they're told no!

These are students doing lots of different things, some medical students are working in labs and even hospitals, sharing kitchens/bathrooms with students working in science labs, sharing with students not leaving their flats and trying to avoid covid.

Some uni management havn't a clue and don't seem to care.

Surely when you have empty floors it makes sense to allow students to spread out if they wish?