Police force entry into home over suspected Covid breach

AnxiousAlpaca · 2021-01-09T13:24:22+00:00

Has anyone else seen this? I’m in support of the lockdown and don’t feel measures go far enough e.g. Too many people going into work, garden centres open etc. However, I find this dystopian. [[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/trio-charged-assaulting-police-called-23282961]]

Sparklingbrook · 09/01/2021 13:28

It's the Daily Mirror. Chaos allegedly broke out Mmmm.

Theunamedcat · 09/01/2021 13:29

Yes there are a couple of threads i think or its been shared on a few its heartbreaking hearing it

Since when do the police have a say in how many people live in a house? The article is badly written it totally blames the family if you see the footage you see her snarking off a man trying to intervene and calm her down the police going OTT and even escalating it the officer was spoiling for a fight and found it

BargainCunt · 09/01/2021 13:30

The police do not arrest people without good reason. Stupid entitled woman.

NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby · 09/01/2021 13:33

Its funny how so many people are in support of lockdown yet are opposed to any type of enforcement.

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 13:33

@BargainCunt

The police do not arrest people without good reason. Stupid entitled woman.

Tell that to people of colour

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 13:35

@NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby

Its funny how so many people are in support of lockdown yet are opposed to any type of enforcement.

I’m not opposed to any type of enforcement. I think businesses should be fined where they’re not Covid secure. Huge gatherings, house parties etc all deserve what they get but this is frightening.

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Tinacollada · 09/01/2021 13:37

Hang on a minute - not so long ago a white women in her 70s was also arrested for breaching the rules for collecting her mother from a care home...

Sparklingbrook · 09/01/2021 13:37

That video hurt my eyes.

yeOldeTrout · 09/01/2021 13:39

Genuinely Can't understand why you're not happy, OP.

I do some volunteer work for someone... 6 weeks ago I entered his home for 20 minutes (his invitation) -- all against the rules. Today he moaned about "People not following the rules!" making the pandemic worse. I like the chap, I brushed off the comment without elaborating. But sheesh. Hypocrisy.

BargainCunt · 09/01/2021 13:41

@AnxiousAlpaca

Fair comment, but clearly colour is not an issue in this particular case.

So don't make it an issue here.

SpreadeagledSquire · 09/01/2021 13:44

@BargainCunt living down to your name; OP is not making it an issue, it was an appropriate example in response to your wrong assertion.

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 13:44

[quote BargainCunt]@AnxiousAlpaca

Fair comment, but clearly colour is not an issue in this particular case.

So don't make it an issue here.[/quote]
Your comment was “people don’t get arrested for not nothing” but clearly they do so it’s a relevant comment.

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Tinacollada · 09/01/2021 13:46

How is it bloody relevant ?!

NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby · 09/01/2021 13:49

So you only want certain breaches enforced.

If everyone lived in that house a simple "yes, the neighbours are shut stirrers, we all live here, do you want to see our toothbrushes?" Would have resolved it. Do you honestly think in Australia and South Korea, where people aren't dying in droves, people are breaching regulations AND kicking off when they're enforced AND subjecting the officers to trial by media, looking sympathy? Doubt it. Compared to most other countries, UK police are massively soft and fluffy. Of course some will get it wrong, especially with relatively new laws. If the police get it wrong there's a complaints process and a civil claim process and criminal courts to decide it. Not the bloody Mirror.

Happytentoes · 09/01/2021 13:58

This was deemed serious enough to warrant a mention on Nicola’s daily deaths update yesterday.
The Chief Constable of Police Scotland has instigated an independent review and stated that the officers had body cam footage as well so that would also be taken into account.
Have to say, as a Scot I was horrified to see this and to learn that the police did not require a warrant to enter a home.
Have no clue on whether any laws were broken but it certainly seems as if the police officer handled it poorly, and that escalated things.

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 14:00

@NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby

So you only want certain breaches enforced.

If everyone lived in that house a simple "yes, the neighbours are shut stirrers, we all live here, do you want to see our toothbrushes?" Would have resolved it. Do you honestly think in Australia and South Korea, where people aren't dying in droves, people are breaching regulations AND kicking off when they're enforced AND subjecting the officers to trial by media, looking sympathy? Doubt it. Compared to most other countries, UK police are massively soft and fluffy. Of course some will get it wrong, especially with relatively new laws. If the police get it wrong there's a complaints process and a civil claim process and criminal courts to decide it. Not the bloody Mirror.

No I just want enforcement to proportionate to the situation.

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NovemberNameChangeYeahBaby · 09/01/2021 14:05

And you are, of course, in possession of the full facts of the case enabling you to decide on proportionality. Based on a fuzzy (edited) clip and a tabloid article sensationalised for clicks and only covering one side of the (non) story.

Coyoacan · 09/01/2021 14:09

If Scottish law says that police do not need a warrant to enter your house, do most Scottish people know that?

I would be very upset if police just walked in my house.

WhenPidgeonsCry · 09/01/2021 14:23

I mean. The police were called to reports of people breaking the law (I believe the quarantine rules are now law) so they had to investigate.

They were ultimately arrested for "assaulting police officers and threatening and abusive behaviour" which obviously is a crime.

Doesn't sound particularly dystopian to me. I'm guessing if they'd not behaved like nutters (""I am the woman of this land" she says! Lol!) they would not have been arrested.

unmarkedbythat · 09/01/2021 14:30

@BargainCunt

The police do not arrest people without good reason. Stupid entitled woman.

Oh my sweet summer child

VenusTiger · 09/01/2021 14:31

I think some of you should watch the whole footage (available on Twitter) instead of reading the news articles - both DM and Mirror have got it wrong - 18yr old sleeping upstairs with her 9yr old brother - she'd come home that day from hospital (suffers epilepsy) she came downstairs to shouting and videoed the argument ensuing - she was then battled to the ground and all 3 arrested! Have seen the 18yr olds FB post, and comments that she suffered another episode after arrest.
The Covid Act 2020 is clear on what NEW powers police now have - all passed through parliament during Easter break, so not scrutinised - Lord Sumption tried to warn us months ago.
I did not see any assault in the footage - I saw a man standing in between his wife and the officer (wife clearly defensive and verbal), man gesticulates and is grabbed by the officer, man clings onto officer's arm as to prevent himself falling backwards.... then the battle to the ground for arrests.
Watch the whole footage and decide.
The neighbours who snitched are vile.
This is not neighbourly. We're turning on eachother. It's divide and conquer and if you can't see that, then you're blind.

RickiTarr · 09/01/2021 14:34

It’s never a good idea to be confrontational with a police officer. If you don’t have the articulacy and impulse control to keep calm and explain your situation dispassionately, bad things will inevitably happen.

The quality of the red top “journalism” is illustrated by the fact that they’ve managed to make the common lose/loose error in reverse. YABU to link such pap.

TheVanguardSix · 09/01/2021 14:43

Shame on every single adult in that room. Both the cop doing the talking and the 'lady of the land' (please! Spare me!) were confrontational. The mother wins no prizes here, but that cop with his 'we'd have to break down the door' malarkey, I mean, come on. That's too threatening. It's not like it's some meth lab. It's a fucking family home. There was a better way of handling this on the cops' part.

PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 14:48

Really poorly handed by the police. Feel sorry for the poor 9 year old who was left screaming.

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 14:49

@VenusTiger

I think some of you should watch the whole footage (available on Twitter) instead of reading the news articles - both DM and Mirror have got it wrong - 18yr old sleeping upstairs with her 9yr old brother - she'd come home that day from hospital (suffers epilepsy) she came downstairs to shouting and videoed the argument ensuing - she was then battled to the ground and all 3 arrested! Have seen the 18yr olds FB post, and comments that she suffered another episode after arrest. The Covid Act 2020 is clear on what NEW powers police now have - all passed through parliament during Easter break, so not scrutinised - Lord Sumption tried to warn us months ago. I did not see any assault in the footage - I saw a man standing in between his wife and the officer (wife clearly defensive and verbal), man gesticulates and is grabbed by the officer, man clings onto officer's arm as to prevent himself falling backwards.... then the battle to the ground for arrests. Watch the whole footage and decide. The neighbours who snitched are vile. This is not neighbourly. We're turning on eachother. It's divide and conquer and if you can't see that, then you're blind.

I was looking for the original clip I’d seen on social media but couldn’t find it. Probably would have been better if I’d posed that.

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