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Police force entry into home over suspected Covid breach

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 13:24

Has anyone else seen this? I’m in support of the lockdown and don’t feel measures go far enough e.g. Too many people going into work, garden centres open etc. However, I find this dystopian. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/trio-charged-assaulting-police-called-23282961

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SnoozyLou · 09/01/2021 18:55

Its funny how so many people are in support of lockdown yet are opposed to any type of enforcement.

And cling to any sorry excuse why the rules don't apply to them. And besides, they're more "guidelines", anyway.

Absolutely pathetic.

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AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 19:02

@SnoozyLou

Its funny how so many people are in support of lockdown yet are opposed to any type of enforcement.

And cling to any sorry excuse why the rules don't apply to them. And besides, they're more "guidelines", anyway.

Absolutely pathetic.

I don’t see anyone is this thread saying the rules don’t apply to them Confused
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MistressoftheDarkSide · 09/01/2021 19:04

How on earth did this escalate? Surely when the police turned up they would have explained their reasons for being there before demanding access? Did they insist on being admitted before they would divulge that information? The point I'm trying to make is that surely an opportunity to explain and confirm the situation could have been given before they had to enter? I'm curious because in one or two situations it's been the devils own job getting police involved in far more potentially high risk situations. Or do Covid laws state that the police can enter regardless? Genuinely interested.

WhenPidgeonsCry · 09/01/2021 19:25

How on earth did this escalate? Surely when the police turned up they would have explained their reasons for being there before demanding access? Did they insist on being admitted before they would divulge that information?

Nobody knows. But people do like to speculate.

BridgertonBride · 09/01/2021 19:27

@MistressoftheDarkSide

How on earth did this escalate? Surely when the police turned up they would have explained their reasons for being there before demanding access? Did they insist on being admitted before they would divulge that information? The point I'm trying to make is that surely an opportunity to explain and confirm the situation could have been given before they had to enter? I'm curious because in one or two situations it's been the devils own job getting police involved in far more potentially high risk situations. Or do Covid laws state that the police can enter regardless? Genuinely interested.
probably one of the more sensible posts on this subject

you do have to wonder.

Veuvestar · 09/01/2021 19:48

That police officer handled it really badly. He lost his temper. He moved in first.
If you look at the original good quality clip, there’s nothing threatening about the woman or the man’s body language. It even looks like she’s smiling when she says not in my fucking house. The bleeping makes it sound more aggressive.

It’s awful and I hope he gets disciplined. Those poor kids

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 09/01/2021 20:16

Its the way the mum was begging to know if she was breathing and they told her to stay back and shut up that really got me they are clearly abusing the family at that point no let me check hang on or give us space to help her just a sick 18 year old on the floor not moving after being rugby tackled by a police officer for what? Filming them doing their job? If they had nothing to hide they wouldn't have cared

I didn't even catch that bit. I really hope that guy loses his job for that shut. I appreciate they have a lot to deal with but that clip is sickening.

MercyBooth · 09/01/2021 20:23

@Theunamedcat Jesus what would have happened if (God forbid) that girl had died. Horrific policing.

Bluesmartiesandpandapop · 09/01/2021 20:27

This should not be an article about three people being arrested for assaulting a police officer, it should be an article about a vulnerable epileptic teenage girl (from her post it looks like she's suffering anxiety and depression too) who was assaulted by a police officer in the hallway of her own home not long after being hospitalised for a seizure because of a misreported covid breach. If that was my kid I would be a lot angrier than that, maybe not at the start, but at the end when the officer tipped her over? In front of a 9 year old as well! Wtf?!

Theunamedcat · 09/01/2021 20:44

Honestly this storyshould serve as a warning check your facts before you report this was clearly a malicious report

In lockdown 1 we had funny stories about police raiding a zoom party where a woman was dancing with her cat and a bunch of people online no one else was in her flat just an online party funny story etc now its all hot drinks are classed as a picnic dont go to hospital because when you return the police will think you have "too many" people in your house ignore the guidance because police will decide that while your allowed out for work exercise medical and education purposes your actually not if the police deam it unacceptable

Meanwhile in my town? Three adults and two children go shopping together all one household in fact the entire shop was families two adults loads of children far from reducing the transmission they are actively pushing it up and blaming the government for letting "the foreigners in"

LastTrainEast · 09/01/2021 21:17

@Theunamedcat

Yes there are a couple of threads i think or its been shared on a few its heartbreaking hearing it

Since when do the police have a say in how many people live in a house? The article is badly written it totally blames the family if you see the footage you see her snarking off a man trying to intervene and calm her down the police going OTT and even escalating it the officer was spoiling for a fight and found it

"Since when do the police have a say in how many people live in a house?" lol Where do you want to begin. Have you heard about a virus that came from China?
LastTrainEast · 09/01/2021 21:20

I wondered about the "Woman of this Land" too. I wasn't sure if it could be some local expression, but it sounded like the "Freeman on the Land" thing and they are certifiable

froggywentacarolling · 09/01/2021 21:31

lol Where do you want to begin. Have you heard about a virus that came from China?

This has to win a prize for the thickest post on MN.

Since when has any COVID restriction, anywhere on the planet, dictated that people should move out of their own homes if they happen to have a family above a certain size?

Every single COVID restriction that relates to size of group covers people you DON'T live with. Not people that you do live with.

Obviously it's ridiculous to state that if a woman has three children, she just has to shove one in a shed or something because a house can't have more than four people living in it.

Which is why no such rule or guideline exists.

So not sure why you find it "lol" worthy that a woman was victim to a malicious false police report simply because her own children were inside their own home that they live in.

Both the police and the neighbour who made the malicious report should go to prison.

Theunamedcat · 09/01/2021 21:45

@LastTrainEast

Lol? Are you my ex husband?

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 10/01/2021 00:33

lol Where do you want to begin. Have you heard about a virus that came from China?

Lol, still doesn't mean they can dictate who, or how many people LIVE in a house. Fucking hell!

CantKeepUpWithRules · 10/01/2021 00:45

The police behaviour was shameful. I felt physically sick watching this, and it takes a lot to do that to me.

MercyBooth · 10/01/2021 00:51

Here we go again. Woman arrested for sitting on a bench.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130133/Police-told-fine-Covid-rule-breakers-just-ONE-verbal-warning.html

Downtheplath · 10/01/2021 01:25

@CantKeepUpWithRules

The police behaviour was shameful. I felt physically sick watching this, and it takes a lot to do that to me.
Same for me. It was very aggressive on the police's part.
PoppiesinOctober · 10/01/2021 01:28

[quote MercyBooth]Here we go again. Woman arrested for sitting on a bench.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130133/Police-told-fine-Covid-rule-breakers-just-ONE-verbal-warning.html[/quote]
Disgraceful.

RickiTarr · 10/01/2021 01:31

Here we go again. Woman arrested for sitting on a bench.

No, arrested because she defied a verbal warning.

If the police ask you nicely not to do something, most of the time, it’s better to desist from whatever it is.

Flaxmeadow · 10/01/2021 01:38

If Scottish law says that police do not need a warrant to enter your house, do most Scottish people know that

Not just Scots law, in England and Wales too. I'm amazed how many people don't know this

The police can enter a home if they believe a crime is being committed or about to be committed.

In a case of domestic violence it can save lives

Defenbaker · 10/01/2021 01:59

Video wouldn't play properly on my tablet, but from what I gather there were 3 adults and a child in the house, and someone reported them for breaking rules - presumably claiming that the 18 year old doesn't normally live there? Quite a spiteful thing to do, as the 18 year old had health problems and might well have moved back in for support. I would guess from the mother's fairly aggressive attitude that perhaps the mother had crossed swords with the neighbour, she might be the neighbour from hell, so maybe there is bad blood between them and the neighbour decided it was payback time. All very unpleasant, and made worse by the cop going a bit OTT, but then again, maybe this family is known to the police and they've had cause to call on them before? Just not enough facts to tell the full story, but surely there are better ways for the police to spemd their time.

themental · 10/01/2021 02:15

Very heavy handed policing. The woman was swearing but if a policeman stepped uninvited over my threshold he would be told to fuck off. What the hell is our society becoming? That poor family.

I think this is actually the major problem. They were given new powers to be able to enter your house for basically any reason they want to and I don't think it was THAT widely reported (I only knew because my bf is a police officer and was pretty shocked when he told me!).

It's a recipe for disaster. Not only are they having to go into homes and physically search for people, but people are on the defensive from the get-go because they think police can't enter without a warrant.

Mix in alcohol, people constantly hiding in the most ridiculous places, refusing to give details, "I've got covid get out - I'll spit on you", this is MY home you're entering illegally etc etc and it all just sounds like a fucking shit show.

I think the officer was heavy handed but the woman shouldn't have been swearing at him for doing the job he has been told to do.

RickiTarr · 10/01/2021 02:19

people are on the defensive from the get-go because they think police can't enter without a warrant.

Why would people think that? When you watch UK police procedurals you don’t see detectives rushing off to court to obtain warrants for every little thing. Don’t people at least absorb info from the telly?

MercyBooth · 10/01/2021 02:26

@Defenbaker neighbour should be charged with wasting police time.