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Police force entry into home over suspected Covid breach

155 replies

AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 13:24

Has anyone else seen this? I’m in support of the lockdown and don’t feel measures go far enough e.g. Too many people going into work, garden centres open etc. However, I find this dystopian. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/trio-charged-assaulting-police-called-23282961

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PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 14:49

@VenusTiger

I think some of you should watch the whole footage (available on Twitter) instead of reading the news articles - both DM and Mirror have got it wrong - 18yr old sleeping upstairs with her 9yr old brother - she'd come home that day from hospital (suffers epilepsy) she came downstairs to shouting and videoed the argument ensuing - she was then battled to the ground and all 3 arrested! Have seen the 18yr olds FB post, and comments that she suffered another episode after arrest. The Covid Act 2020 is clear on what NEW powers police now have - all passed through parliament during Easter break, so not scrutinised - Lord Sumption tried to warn us months ago. I did not see any assault in the footage - I saw a man standing in between his wife and the officer (wife clearly defensive and verbal), man gesticulates and is grabbed by the officer, man clings onto officer's arm as to prevent himself falling backwards.... then the battle to the ground for arrests. Watch the whole footage and decide. The neighbours who snitched are vile. This is not neighbourly. We're turning on eachother. It's divide and conquer and if you can't see that, then you're blind.
Yep, this.
PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 14:50

twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1347246304401960961?s=20

Link here

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 09/01/2021 14:52

The police do not arrest people without good reason

Oh, I think they do!

Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 14:53

I don’t think you can comment unless you have had police storm your home.

Police are their to protect us and enforce the law, but when they come barging through your door your instinct kicks in that the police are not there to help you. As they are in your home so suddenly you automatically feel attacked and defences rose, which is why shouting is a normal reaction.

Sounds like a man a wife and her 18 year old child who just come out of hospital. Once the officer realised it he escalated it so that he could still arrest them and become in the right.

This is a family home, not a drug den.
Policing coming into your home like that would terrify most people.

Lemonpiano · 09/01/2021 14:54

@BargainCunt

The police do not arrest people without good reason. Stupid entitled woman.
Lol sure they don't.
AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 14:54
Thank you Smile
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Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 14:55

Sorry I should clarify. It sounds like once he was in there it was obvious it was just family so to justify himself handled it poorly to escalate relations so he could arrest the family and claim he was in the right.

Everleigh2021 · 09/01/2021 14:56

@NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace

The police do not arrest people without good reason

Oh, I think they do!

not on this occasion!
Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 14:58

That 18 year old women (child) must have been absolutely terrified- I bet her heart was jumping out from her chest- it’s clear to see from the video the officer barged in and started it when everyone was speaking but not shouting

unmarkedbythat · 09/01/2021 14:58

Having watched the footage I think both the police and civilians were acting like tits.

PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 14:58

I actually found this video quite frightening. It's just absolutely insane what's happening in the world. Who would've thought ...

Everleigh2021 · 09/01/2021 14:59

'I am the woman of this land'

the fact her kids were pleading with 'mum' to stop makes me think they have seen their mothers bad behaviour many times before...it was a resigned 'stop it mum'

unmarkedbythat · 09/01/2021 15:00

And the onus is on the police to behave better. If they want respect as professionals they cannot act like smug bully boys and take a "whatever action we feel like is justified because we are the police" approach. Poor policing lets everyone down, not least their decent and admirable colleagues who don't act like this but get judged accordingly

Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 15:02

How dare you say it was the mums fault because the child was saying stop it!b Angry

She is saying it to her mum because she is her mum. That’s it. She doesn’t want her mum to get hurt.

She can’t say it to the police because the police don’t know her and she knows they won’t listen to her but she might have a chance with her mum.

You sound weird for not knowing that? Do you have children?

Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 15:04

So was there anyone extra in the house? Was the reason they pushed their way in justified as it didn’t mention if they were found to be breaking the rules?

PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 15:07

@Everleigh2021

'I am the woman of this land'

the fact her kids were pleading with 'mum' to stop makes me think they have seen their mothers bad behaviour many times before...it was a resigned 'stop it mum'

Stupid comment.
PoppiesinOctober · 09/01/2021 15:09

@Heartlantern2

So was there anyone extra in the house? Was the reason they pushed their way in justified as it didn’t mention if they were found to be breaking the rules?
If you click the link I posted and scroll down, the girl recording made a statement and said there was nobody in the house bar the people in the video.
Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 15:12

Funny that, because that’s what I thought. The officer should face consequences for his actions (and the neighbour should be arrested for wrongly accusing, causing a public scene and wasting police time)

Bluesmartiesandpandapop · 09/01/2021 15:16

If police in England believe that their might be domestic violence going on in a property where there are children or vulnerable people (including the domestic violence victim) they can enter without a warrant too. I have had this done, when there was no row, kids asleep in the house, it was my neighbour rowing not my house, and basically they forced entry, come across really aggressive. I felt the rage rising up in me. Honestly you don't know how you are going to react in that situation, but thankfully I had this moment of clarity and this feeling of icy calm came over me. I told them they were mistaken and I insisted they leave. They still spent a good hour drilling me on whether my kids had a social worker and all kinds. It's like they needed to be proven right? I've had them boot my door looking for an ex tenant too. My kids were terrified, and they insisted on searching my home anyway. That was before covid. I absolutely knew these new powers would be abused, and those kids could be ended up with PTSD and the older one a criminal Record and criminalised parents, and for what? They weren't having a mass gathering were they? I absolutely believe that the police should be able to enforce the rules, but I also think there are some officers out there who want a fight. I think it's a trauma response, though. Basically they have been exposed to so much trauma as part of the job they go into their amygdala reaction and think everything is a "fight" from fight & flight. If that's the case they need some help, though, not to be on the job. Why did they go anywhere near the 18 year old? Mum was shouting, dad(?) stepped forward, the teenager was further back and not being aggressive. It beggars belief

Confuzzlediddled · 09/01/2021 15:17

The fact she was spouting the "I am a woman of this land" bollocks says to me she's one of the full on conspiracy theorist wazzocks, like the hairdressers and gyms that have refused to close in lockdowns claiming the law doesn't apply to them, therefore I would take it all with a pinch of salt...

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Orlania · 09/01/2021 15:23

That's bloody awful. The police are overstepping the mark here.

Coyoacan · 09/01/2021 15:23

I'm shocked at all this criticism of a mother defending her family home, on mumsnet. I know that anytime I've felt my child to be threatened, I see red.

Lemonpiano · 09/01/2021 15:24

@unmarkedbythat

And the onus is on the police to behave better. If they want respect as professionals they cannot act like smug bully boys and take a "whatever action we feel like is justified because we are the police" approach. Poor policing lets everyone down, not least their decent and admirable colleagues who don't act like this but get judged accordingly
Indeed.
Lemonpiano · 09/01/2021 15:26

Police are doing a great job at undermining the foundation of our policing by consent model at the moment.

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