timescale for non vulnerable under 50s being offered the vaccine?

[Earlgrey666]

I wondered if there is an estimation of timescale for the above? I have searched but can't find any information on this.

I have friends in their 30s/40s with no underlying health conditions expecting to be offered the vaccine this Spring and I think they are being very optimistic!

@BarbaraofSeville not really. I work 8.30 to 5 minimum with a half hour lunch, usually much longer. I have a walk from 6-7am in the dark on my own to try to maintain activity. Some homeschooling/wash up happens after work. Then tea and bed for the kids and some tv. I thought that was pretty standard? Cant take the kids out for a walk after work as it's dark. Weekends I have an online sports class with DC, more work maybe a walk in the park. Most of my friends are working and doing the same. I personally hate zoom-I am pretty much on it all the time at work and it's not the same. I am hard of hearing and I think that plays into it-it's an effort to participate and I miss things. I havent been meeting friends-we're pretty much all trying to family wrangle at the weekends, get some time with the kids. I have a ds who is in his gcse year and doing online mocks atm, so that's a restriction too. Hopefully it'll be better in the summer when the days are longer. At the moment it's pretty grim tbh and I think I have reached the end of my tether with it this week.

There’s a very good chance your friends being 30/40s with no underlying health conditions will never be offered the vaccine or if they are it will be next year, they are in the lowest group.

It’s quite possibly the nhs roll out will stop before it gets to their group, similar to flu jab, there has been no commitment whatsoever from the government that their group will be offered the vaccine let alone anytime soon

I think best case scenario around late summer - early autumn, worst case scenario not even this year... I'm hoping after the priority groups have had theirs that it may be a little more flexible to book yours rather than strictly in age order.

There are still other vaccinations like Novavax and Valneva in development and UK has reserved some of those so if they get approved, hopefully that will speed things up. AZ/Oxford has said they can make enough for 2 million doses a week, that would take a long time to vaccinate all adult population...

@benedicto

For the under 50s I suspect it would be for people working in certain sectors only But anyone who is a parent and will have children returning from school are at the same level of risk as staff in school (obviously the exposure to individuals is lower, but once your DC have been exposed that risk becomes equal).

Agreed completely and not just for parents (for anyone who works with other people, gets public transport, goes to hospital etc...)! The risk for everyone will go up when infections run wild in the under 50s. I'm resigned to a very quiet life for the next couple of years I think!

Haha just tried the calculator and it says first dose in September and second dose in December, so even worse than I thought. I would hope that I could pay to have it before then or my employer would offer it.

@Hadenough80

Apparently according to that covid vaccine calculator I will be offered from March onwards. I'm 40, but I get carers allowance and have 3 children with autsim and learning disabilities. I'm wondering how they will know all the people who are an unpaid carer?

Could they link it to those who get carer's allowance?

I took 'unpaid carer' to be those other than those doing it as a job, ie for their own family members, like you are. Most of those will be getting carer's allowance, like you are, so it would seem obvious to use carer's allowance eligibility as a qualifying criteria. However, this would exclude those who aren't entitled to CA, because they also have an income above the small amount that you are allowed to earn and many carers of vulnerable people could fall into this category. It would be a start though.

I'm 47y and CV. I'm hoping I'll have it before the summer, though the calculators suggest maybe by Easter. We will see.

MIL is going for her first vaccine dose on ,I day. She got the call this ,ironing. She is in her 70s and CV, but not shielded group.
But then I know of a few over 80s who haven't been offered theirs yet.
I guess it probably depends on where you are, the number of vaccines the surgery has got and the number of more vulnerable people ahead of you in your location.

Where I live there is a large number of older residents, so I'm not convinced I'll get mine as soon as the calculator suggests.

@BuffyFairy

There’s a vaccine queue calculator.

I had a look at this the other day and it seems complete bs because the timing depends on the input of how many are being done a week and that is completely variable at the moment.

It does at least tell how many in the queue before your group though.

I’m mid 50s with health issues. Last time I checked, it was first dose December 2021, second dose 2022! Perhaps it’s changed. .My elderly parents -late 80s- haven’t even been offered it yet. There’s a way to go yet.

[quote BellsaRinging]@BarbaraofSeville not really. I work 8.30 to 5 minimum with a half hour lunch, usually much longer. I have a walk from 6-7am in the dark on my own to try to maintain activity. Some homeschooling/wash up happens after work. Then tea and bed for the kids and some tv. I thought that was pretty standard? Cant take the kids out for a walk after work as it's dark. Weekends I have an online sports class with DC, more work maybe a walk in the park. Most of my friends are working and doing the same. I personally hate zoom-I am pretty much on it all the time at work and it's not the same. I am hard of hearing and I think that plays into it-it's an effort to participate and I miss things. I havent been meeting friends-we're pretty much all trying to family wrangle at the weekends, get some time with the kids. I have a ds who is in his gcse year and doing online mocks atm, so that's a restriction too. Hopefully it'll be better in the summer when the days are longer. At the moment it's pretty grim tbh and I think I have reached the end of my tether with it this week.[/quote]
So your problem is that you work longer hours than standard, which would be a problem pandemic or no pandemic. That's not sustainable, especially if you're also a parent. It's also not normal or desirable to work so many hours.

I don't understand the types of jobs that require people to be on Zoom so much and I'd bet that a lot of these could be a lot shorter and more focussed if people wanted them to be. Exactly what are you achieving by doing this?

Tbh I was being sensible, minimising contact but pretty ok about the risks until two things happened-1 we have reports of people in their 20s and 30s in intensive care with it (in which case surely everyone needs the vaccine?) and 2 a close friend of mine got it. In her 30's, no underlying health conditions, got it from teacher partner. Off work for 5 weeks no hospital but 8 weeks on has an inhaler prescribed and cant go for a walk without it. If the government does indeed decide those under 50s cant have a vaccine then I will be furious. I expect my fury will have fuck all effect but I will simmer with righteous anger all the same!

The vaccine calculator says anyone in their mid forties with no conditions etc. Is looking at Sping 2022!

@BarbaraofSeville Court and tribunal hearings. When I'm not in those then meetings with staff I supervise, management meetings. Yes there are too non court meetings but it's mainly hearings.
At work normally (I actually changed jobs just before lockdown) the work would be in Court or tribunal. It's completely different. You get exercise walking to and from. You have social interaction with colleagues and friends in between cases; at lunch. In person hearings are what I'm used to and are far easier, for many many reasons I wont go into. Meetings face to face get more done, quicker. I can go to the gym. The kids are at school and I dont have to worry about teaching them too.
I really dont think I'm particularly unusual in my work/life balance tbh. It works when we aren't in a pandemic!

I work in health I had my first vacc on Tuesday. I don't think they plan to vaccinate under 50's at all if they have no other criteria (heath/occupation/carers/etc)

@BellsaRinging feel much the same as you. Normal activities drastically curtailed but still at risk due to using public transport for work and kids being at school, not confident that I'd only have a 'mild' dose at close to 50 so not gung-ho about it.

Us Gen X ers always get forgotten about!

@Covine depressing isn't it? Not helped by dp (over 50) telling me he will take the kids on holiday on his own if he has the vaccine before me! He'd better be joking!
If we aren't going to get the vaccine I am pretty upset. It doesn't feel like a remote possibility I will get it badly if I get it. Yes, I read about stats and herd immunity but on a personal level there's significant risk too, if lower.
I'm actually angry. I work hard, I pay a lot of tax. I dont begrudge the tax, I dont begrudge that I am last in line for this vaccine not really-how could I? If I am told I'm not getting it at all after years of restrictions, to keep everyone else safe, then I will be upset. It will say something about how the country values the (just) under 50s, and I think there will be big repercussions from that.

I’m 47 no conditions etc and if you input 2m vaccinations a week as is planned it says april/may time which I think is what’s planned.

All adults will definitely get the vaccine.

Our GP surgery texted last week to say if you were a carer to someone higher up the priority list, and it wasn’t on your records, to let them know so as they could prioritise you in line with them.

That was to @Hadenough80 by the way, sorry.

One of the few things the government have done was to order many many many doses of a few different vaccines.

Hard to predict which ones gets to which GP surgery.

But I think all adults will be offered vaccine as soon as.

The airlines and travel industry cannot survive on income from just wealthy pensioners, people with underlying health conditions find it more difficult to travel long haul. And the airlines have a huge sway with politicians.

Wait until half term see vaccinated numbers then.

The army are getting involved. They are throwing everything at this, they want people back working in office blocks. They know the working population whom pay a lot of taxes want vaccines as well.

We will all be offered one.

My guess early summer.

But if you have to be revaccinated every 6 months, how will everybody keep being vaccinated?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/people-need-covid-vaccines-every-23280233.amp

By the time you finish priority group 6, it’ll be time to restart group 1 again.

Gp surgeries register carers, they confirm withe the gp of the person you are caring for if diferent to your own. All adults over 16 will be offered the vaccine.

[quote Covine]@BellsaRinging feel much the same as you. Normal activities drastically curtailed but still at risk due to using public transport for work and kids being at school, not confident that I'd only have a 'mild' dose at close to 50 so not gung-ho about it.

Us Gen X ers always get forgotten about![/quote]
Yep!!!!

I WFH but in normal times DD is at school so through her I’m just as exposed as someone who is in a school. Will be 45 next year and don’t want long covid.

However they’ve just ordered more of the Moderna haven’t they? Why would they do this if they’re not planning to vax everyone at some stage?

I think the vaccine calculator uses 1million vaccines a week for the standard calculation. If you increase it to 2 or 3 million the timescale reduces hugely.

I tried to put it 5 million a week and it basically told me that's not likely to happen but it will let you go up to 4 million.

Can you tell I've been spending too much time on this 😂

It looks like the calculator has changed its assumptions, as my estimated date ( based on age alone) has moved from may to september.
In practice it may be sooner - i work in a hospital in a role that isnt patient facing, so im not in the top priority group, but yesterday i saw something about non- frontline nhs staff moving up the list due to staff shortages.