Exercise is now once a day by law?

[Lemons1571]

I’m confused. I thought Boris said it was unlimited. It definitely says once a day in the new lockdown guidance:

You can continue to exercise alone, with one other person or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.You should maintain social distancing. See exercising and meeting other people.

Despite living rurally, I won't be going out to exercise more than once a day. I simply don't have the time.

I'd like to point out that taking kids out to exercise (especially under about 7) is unlikely to be exercise for the adult other than in patience and possibly weight lifting the angry child away from the park as the rain comes in/it's dinner time...

Frankly I could do those at home and DC could lose out on their exercise outside because getting out solo is the only way I have any chance of coping with homeschool for a 5yo and keeping a destructive, climbing 2 year old from damaging himself/ the house...

Bloody glad I live in Scotland where this is recognised!

People were being forced to turn back today from going to a supermarket in the next village because it crossed a boundary. Its 2 miles away.

That memo was given out today.

Some big dogs need to be exercised once a day. Who is going to be standing outside your door counting?

I genuinely can't understand why anyone would care even if it did say you could only exercise outside once a day. Would you seriously follow that? That's more worrying than COVID.

@HecouldLickEm

People were being forced to turn back today from going to a supermarket in the next village because it crossed a boundary. Its 2 miles away.

Where was this happening and whom is turning people back. There is no provision as I understand being placed into the Health Protection Regulations allowing this to happen jnless as previously it involved crossing boarders to say Wales

It is in the Daily Mail today - yesterday people who live in Maidenhead wanting to cross the bridge over the Thames to go to Tesco at Taplow 2 miles away and police turning them round and handing out the notices, Thames Valley Police apparently apologised but it happened due to misinformed police.

This is why rules are needed because no one seems able to make a sensible decision about their health without coming on here to discuss it endlessly.

[quote Sunflowergirl1]@HecouldLickEm

People were being forced to turn back today from going to a supermarket in the next village because it crossed a boundary. Its 2 miles away.

Where was this happening and whom is turning people back. There is no provision as I understand being placed into the Health Protection Regulations allowing this to happen jnless as previously it involved crossing boarders to say Wales[/quote]
Plenty of this happening in my area, although I haven't heard about it for tiny distances like 2 miles.
What worries me is my walk is a couple of miles drive away - in the countryside. People living there are presumably allowed to drive to my town for the shops, essential amenities, but will I be allowed to drive there for my exercise? Both equally allowed, both encouraged to remain local.
The police in less populated counties/areas really are policing by APN and have been since we went into tier 4.
If you live in a busy city this may seem untrue, but it is definitely happening in some parts.

APN = ANPR apologies for typo

@PilatesPeach

It is in the Daily Mail today - yesterday people who live in Maidenhead wanting to cross the bridge over the Thames to go to Tesco at Taplow 2 miles away and police turning them round and handing out the notices, Thames Valley Police apparently apologised but it happened due to misinformed police.

I worry that the notices are being issued, and the only recourse is a stressful appeals procedure.

@bugwife9

No one is going to notice if you do something utterly outrageous like go for two walks in one day

Oh I'm sure every street has the mental curtain twitcher. They probably have Excel fired up and are logging every movement.

Well my boys exercised for 5 hours today in a playground.... as did pretty much every primary school aged child

It’s not written into the law it’s guidelines for once a day just use common sense. Today I went for a run then took my little baby girl and my dog for a walk, I can’t do all of those things at the same time and as someone who usually goes to the gym and runs 5 times a week I’m not willing to sacrifice my fitness for a nonsensical rule when I’m harming no one!

Totally agree and in any event exercising your pet is permitted under a different section to exercise and as you say it is guidance not law. I see people still popping into other households with no legal reason - these are the people to be targeted, not those who legally take more than 1 stint of exercise a day.

@Katie517

It’s not written into the law it’s guidelines for once a day just use common sense. Today I went for a run then took my little baby girl and my dog for a walk, I can’t do all of those things at the same time and as someone who usually goes to the gym and runs 5 times a week I’m not willing to sacrifice my fitness for a nonsensical rule when I’m harming no one!

If it's not written into law, then why are the police fining people? Is this because it isn't in law so they can't take you to court, but can issue a fine without any proof, evidence or case, just an ANPR scan of your plate? If so, that is even worse because they don't even have to prove a case against you, and you get no defence other than a lengthy and stressful procedure to prove your innocence (the opposite of how the law normally works, where someone has to prove your guilt).

I worry about the fact that 'local' is not actually precisely defined and that support bubbles are not restricted by any geographical distance, but do the police listen if you try to resist your fine because you are genuinely and properly in a support bubble so can travel and meet another household?

@passporttohell the police haven’t fined anyone for doing the things I mentioned. The DM article is scaremongering as usual. The guidelines are what the government suggest the law is what is actually enforceable so the police cannot fine you for anything that is not written into the legislation it’s all there for people to read so if the police were to stop you (which they won’t) you can challenge them as it seems some of them don’t even know their own rules hence why the force that put the notes on the cars have retracted and said they made a mistake. My support bubble live 80 miles away and I fully intend to visit at least once per week.

Lemons1571 "Also worth knowing. I will be driving for exercise to a place with less people."

Just remember if you break-down to walk back without approaching other people or calling anyone to help.

@LastTrainEast

Lemons1571 "Also worth knowing. I will be driving for exercise to a place with less people."

Just remember if you break-down to walk back without approaching other people or calling anyone to help.

Since I pay for breakdown cover which I haven't been refunded for and they are still working, l would be call them if I break down. In fact they sent me an email about what to do about calling them in a lockdown.

Why are fucking randoms telling people what they should do or not do

Police in Berkshire were handing out notices - I attached a copy earlier in this post but not fines. The Thames Valley Police have apologised.
The law does not restrict to once a day but the guidance does and that is what the police apparently quoted.
I do not know what other forces have been doing.

The 1km rule in France meant my family there could only exercise by walking on the narrow pavements of busy roads, along with all the other people who live in their densely populated city.

They would have less chance of spreading covid if they could travel 5km to woodland where they could socially distance.

@HecouldLickEm

People were being forced to turn back today from going to a supermarket in the next village because it crossed a boundary. Its 2 miles away.

Where was that? You're allowed to cross boundaries to go to a supermarket. Police not got enough to do again?

Just remember if you break-down to walk back without approaching other people or calling anyone to help

If cars are properly maintained they don't break down. Puncture perhaps, but in any event you don't need to get close to the person fixing it for you.