Exercise is now once a day by law?

[Lemons1571]

I’m confused. I thought Boris said it was unlimited. It definitely says once a day in the new lockdown guidance:

You can continue to exercise alone, with one other person or with your household or support bubble. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.You should maintain social distancing. See exercising and meeting other people.

How are two walks more risky than one when they’re both the same length and involve meeting the same number of people (none) in my local area?

It's a good point but is probably about doubling the opportunity for infection.

In the Melbourne lockdown exercise was for an hour, but could be split. However, it was accompanied by far tougher restrictions than in the UK. I wouldn't wish the Melbourne lockdown on anyone, but the English government one is very wishy-washy and will do little to curtail infections.

@WhentheDealGoesDown1 we were not talking about people travelling within the guidelines though , we were talking about those travelling far foe exercise.
And you have to have onward travel to get home , its easier to be towed a few miles as opposed to 50 etc

It's a good point but is probably about doubling the opportunity for infection.

How? There’s no maximum time limit for exercise. I could go out for four hours and not be breaking guidelines but not two ten minute walks. It makes no sense.

Well, DH has just come in from his 8 hour walk, perfectly within the rules

So therefore do what you want but then don't frown at others for breaking the guidelines

I will frown at whoever I want. That’s like saying because I drove at 32mph in a 30mph speed limit I can’t be annoyed with someone who was drink driving.

[quote donewithitalltodayandxmas]@WhentheDealGoesDown1 we were not talking about people travelling within the guidelines though , we were talking about those travelling far foe exercise.
And you have to have onward travel to get home , its easier to be towed a few miles as opposed to 50 etc [/quote]
I believe we were talking about cars breaking down and having to walk home

@PurpleDaisies

It's a good point but is probably about doubling the opportunity for infection.

How? There’s no maximum time limit for exercise. I could go out for four hours and not be breaking guidelines but not two ten minute walks. It makes no sense.

I was trying to guess at the government, ahem thinking. The question I was answering was a poster's one about the number of exercise sessions, not the time length.

And yes, the numbers of times a person is out of the house increases the number of opportunities they have to be infected.

And yes, the numbers of times a person is out of the house increases the number of opportunities they have to be infected.

Even if they’re out doing the same thing for the same total length of time?

I’d say it was the total time, not the number of individual times I went out that dictated how many people I met.

I’m sure I said this earlier but if the reason for being out is exercise, I’d say that doesn’t need a limit on how many times you can go out to exercise because that’s naturally self limiting. Specifying you are only allowed to do it with one person outside your household per day could be a reasonable limitation.

It's because some people will use exercise as an excuse to mingle. It's to try to stop them doing that multiple times a day. If you are capable of going out without doing that it doesn't matter.

And yes, the numbers of times a person is out of the house increases the number of opportunities they have to be infected. Even if they’re out doing the same thing for the same total length of time?

Yes. And length of time increases the chances, too. As does the number of people you can exercise with. In the end it's probabilities, and the government is drawing the line somewhere, as they must.

I guess we’ll just agree to disagree that being out on two separate occasions for half an hour each time means you’ll meet more people than going out once for an hour.

I didn't say you would, I said it was statistical probability. Which it is.

@PurpleDaisies

I guess we’ll just agree to disagree that being out on two separate occasions for half an hour each time means you’ll meet more people than going out once for an hour.

Depends where you go I guess. If you live in a crowded residential area and walk to an empty field which you then walk round for a bit before coming home, then it's the crowded residential area where you're likely to meet more people so coming and going twice will indeed increase your chance of risk.

If you do what I sometimes do, which is to go for a 30 minute walk at lunchtime, and then a 10 minute walk before bedtime, this is actually less risky than a 40 minute walk at lunchtime because I'm likely to see more people at that time of day.

Though, I'm with the poster who suggested that the guidelines primarily suggest once a day to stop people meeting multiple friends , one at a time for walks on a single day. And, if nothing else, they should make people stop and think about why they are leaving their house. Which I think is the main point.

@SuitedandBooted

I will be walking 3 times a day same as last time (rural). It will be impossible to enforce the "once a day" thing anyway, even if it does become Law.

I expect the people who get all their info via Facebook will be along soon to disagree though. The number of "It's an hour a day!" lot last time was quite something, and shows how few people actually listened to/read the actual Government regulations. That said, I was shocked to see that repeated on a BBC website yesterday. It was originally an off the cuff remark from Gove, - not a definite rule!

At last someone else that actually listened and realised the "hour a day" was never a thing! I got so sick of correcting people that I gave up in the end and let them limit themselves if they wanted!

@whenthedealgoesdown1 in the context of people travelling far to exercise if you followed the whole conversation.
And not everyone has breakdown quite a lot actually don't

@Purple daisies but that makes you hypocrotical as we are only talking guidelines not laws like your example , you think its safe to walk multiple times a day , so you can't then moan at someone who breaks another guideline. Not talking laws where different punishments exist often based on severity.

Who is going to know if you go out for 3 runs instead of 1?

[quote donewithitalltodayandxmas]@Purple daisies but that makes you hypocrotical as we are only talking guidelines not laws like your example , you think its safe to walk multiple times a day , so you can't then moan at someone who breaks another guideline. Not talking laws where different punishments exist often based on severity.
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so you can't then moan at someone who breaks another guideline

I’m not sure who made you the boss of what people can complain about?

Surely most people can see there’s a clear difference between two rural walks seeing nobody and driving to Barnard Castle (for example).

I hate exercising outside when it is so cold. I use rowing machine inside and only pop out for walking dogs in morning and DH does that in evenings as I don't like dark either.

[quote donewithitalltodayandxmas]@whenthedealgoesdown1 in the context of people travelling far to exercise if you followed the whole conversation.
And not everyone has breakdown quite a lot actually don't [/quote]
Breakdown company is not going to ask your reason for going out, its not like car insurance.

@Lemons1571

Oh so it’s not part of the law, only guidance?

According to Gov UK:

"You should follow this guidance immediately. This is the law."

@JacobReesMogadishu

And local area hasn’t been defined so is open to interpretation and therefore unlikely to be enforceable.

Local area has been defined as "Stay local means stay in the village, town, or part of the city where you live."

@WhentheDealGoesDown1

DH goes for very long walks, runs and cycle rides so fortunately these can continue, he is often out for the whole day. I don't have this love of exercise, especially in the winter so won't be joining him.

Exercising "You should minimise time spent outside your home, but you can leave your home to exercise. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area."

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Surely most people can see there’s a clear difference between two rural walks seeing nobody and driving to Barnard Castle (for example)

Both break the lockdown guidelines. The "clear difference" is that you appear to believe that what you do is OK, while what Dominic Cummings did wasn't.