To say if they bring in the "only one hour a day outside" guidance I am NOT going to follow it

[EndemicPanda]

There are rumours on the BBC news that the Government might bring back rules saying you can only exercise outside for an hour a day.

AIBU to ignore it if they do? I followed it last time despite the fact that it was only in guidance (rather than the law) even though it had a negative impact on me and there is an incredibly low chance of the virus being transmitted outside, especially if you keep away from people.

Bringing this rule back whilst schools stay open seems especially ridiculous.

I don't remember it ever being a rule, also curious how on earth it would be monitored anyway.

Morning, everyone. We've moved this thread over to our Coronavirus topic now.

@Backbee

I don't remember it ever being a rule, also curious how on earth it would be monitored anyway.

There's probably plenty of people happy to stand in their front window with a stop watch and a clipboard.

I'm just baffled as to how there are so many people who have no idea how to decide which information is reliable and which could be a load of crap.

Just because people write stuff on the internet, or even say it on national television when put on the spot and panicked into saying the first thing that comes into his head, doesn't make it actual guidance or the law.

Just because people write stuff on the internet, or even say it on national television when put on the spot and panicked into saying the first thing that comes into his head, doesn't make it actual guidance or the law

Because people blindly believe everything they hear or see especially on the news channels/GMTV they don’t expect presenters to lie or fudge the truth - but they do. Piers Morgan was disgusting at the beginning of lockdown whipping people up in to a frenzy of fear

People saying it was never a rule need to go back and watch the press releases during this timeframe, might not have been law but it was most definitely implied and regulated in most area's to begin with

Can you link to them please as I don’t recall anything like this. I can only recall Michael Gove’s personal opinion on what might be reasonable when he was pushed on the point

It was never in the legislation or in the guidance or anywhere else other than people’s imagination. The number of people going ‘I’ve had my government mandated one hour exercise’ used to make me want to scream.

Please say we are not going back to that 😩

I only recall it being "implemented" by curtain twitchers and nosy bastards grassing their neighbours up!

I've not RTFT so apologies if I'm repeating what others have said, but can you not see @EndemicPanda that by loudly announcing on Mumsnet your intention to break a rule you are increasing the publich health risk - even though the rule in question may or may not be brought into force?!
The risk that you will catch (and therefore onwardly spread) CV from lengthy outdoor walks is, of course, vanishingly small- but too, too often people have decided to sod the rules and make their own judgment calls and too too too often those judgement calls have clearly been wrong!

In one of the MN discussions about Christmas mixing someone literally said "There will be 10 of us meeting up on Xmas day, I don't care what the rules say, I know none of us has Covid". Given that the poster did not appear to be based in New Zealand (and given that she didn't suggest that these 10 people had hermetically sealed themselves off from the world for the fortnight before Xmas, or that they had all been vaccinated) she was clearly spouting rubbish but was apparently confident that her judgement was so superlative as to trump the rules and therefore they could just ignore them. There have been countless other people saying and doing much the same - eg someone interviewed coming out of the warehouse of French NYE ravers said "Well, loads of the shops have been open so why shouldn't I come here for a 3 day party with two thousand others?!"

My point is that your - arguably narcissistic - shouting from the rooftops of your intentions is likely to encourage others to make poor judgement calls to breach the rules. The initial lockdown did ultimately work because people did - by and large - stick to the rules even if we/they didn't particularly agree with them - there was a sense of 'we're all in it together and this is what we all need to do'.

People blatantly flouting the rules (or publicly banging on about their intention to do so) just encourages further rule breaking and it becomes a vicious circle that we can ill afford.

Talking of shopping.

Ds and I did this!

Our supermarket is 20 minutes walk. I got a festival trolley.

We walked to supermarket to shop. Not classed as our exercise!

In fact I'm not sure how I managed to get so many pandemic pounds. I worked in school right through (although in 7 week half terms we were in full time 4 and wfh 3 as we alternated who did f2f and who did remote) , walked every day, walked to supermarket instead of driving 🤔🤣

Can you link to them please as I don’t recall anything like this. I can only recall Michael Gove’s personal opinion on what might be reasonable when he was pushed on the point

This. And it was based on (as he explained) that 5k was considered what people should walk/run and would take 30-60 minutes dependent on speed and walk/running.

For once it was actually clear reason why they said what they did (although I don't know why some journalists felt the need to press for such detail) and based loosely on recommended exercise advice,

The initial lockdown did ultimately work because people did - by and large - stick to the rules even if we/they didn't particularly agree with them - there was a sense of 'we're all in it together and this is what we all need to do'.

This exactly what I'm talking about. I stuck to everything last time including both the guidance and Government spin on it out of a "We're all in this together mentality" even when it made so sense and had a negative impact on me and was driven by a ridiculous London-centric mentality.

But I'm done with it now and not sticking to any rules that don't make sense. I haven't seen my parents (other than Skype) for nearly a year for their protection. That makes sense. I am still sticking to the other rules that make sense, but if the Government start trying to my ability to get out of the house when it doesn't spread the virus then they can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think it was one hour, but it was one form of exercise outside a day.

@EndemicPanda

The initial lockdown did ultimately work because people did - by and large - stick to the rules even if we/they didn't particularly agree with them - there was a sense of 'we're all in it together and this is what we all need to do'.

This exactly what I'm talking about. I stuck to everything last time including both the guidance and Government spin on it out of a "We're all in this together mentality" even when it made so sense and had a negative impact on me and was driven by a ridiculous London-centric mentality.

But I'm done with it now and not sticking to any rules that don't make sense. I haven't seen my parents (other than Skype) for nearly a year for their protection. That makes sense. I am still sticking to the other rules that make sense, but if the Government start trying to my ability to get out of the house when it doesn't spread the virus then they can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

Calm down.

Yes, that's what the guidance (and possibly the regulations) actually said - one form of exercise a day. Not one hour, or one occasion, but one type.

So you could go for a walk for as long as you liked, or go for several walks, but what was against the guidelines, was going for a run and a cycle in the same day, even if they were only 5 minutes each.

But of course, what actually matters is social distancing, hand washing and plus reducing risk by spending as little time as possible in spaces with poor ventilation where there are also other people, not blind adherence to rules, whether as published, or made up by the covid police.

That was never law and is unlikely to be - not in the UK, anyway.

I believe it was law in some places. Trouble is that we have a very high fuckwit density in the UK. Look at those driving two hours to climb Snowdon, in January with a bad forecast, probably in ripped jeans and a fashionable jacket. Do that and covid is the least of your worries. What is needed is clear statements given that a lot of our population are very, very stupid.

we also need to pull all mountain rescue services and make it very clear that anyone who gets into trouble in these places will be left to it. Similarly with large raves; once you're in, you stay for 14 days. Starve or freeze, that's your problem.

Why get angry about something that hasn’t happened? There’s enough stress without worrying about fictional measures.

@murbblurb

That was never law and is unlikely to be - not in the UK, anyway.

I believe it was law in some places. Trouble is that we have a very high fuckwit density in the UK. Look at those driving two hours to climb Snowdon, in January with a bad forecast, probably in ripped jeans and a fashionable jacket. Do that and covid is the least of your worries. What is needed is clear statements given that a lot of our population are very, very stupid.

we also need to pull all mountain rescue services and make it very clear that anyone who gets into trouble in these places will be left to it. Similarly with large raves; once you're in, you stay for 14 days. Starve or freeze, that's your problem.

Think we need you as PM💪

@murbblurb

That was never law and is unlikely to be - not in the UK, anyway.

I believe it was law in some places. Trouble is that we have a very high fuckwit density in the UK. Look at those driving two hours to climb Snowdon, in January with a bad forecast, probably in ripped jeans and a fashionable jacket. Do that and covid is the least of your worries. What is needed is clear statements given that a lot of our population are very, very stupid.

we also need to pull all mountain rescue services and make it very clear that anyone who gets into trouble in these places will be left to it. Similarly with large raves; once you're in, you stay for 14 days. Starve or freeze, that's your problem.

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Well I will certainly not be following the one hour rule.
I get up at 6am every day, fill my rucksack with crisps and cheese (for my coffee) and start walking.
Usually arrive home at 9pm carrying all my clothes as it gets so blooming hot.
Keep my pants on though

"I would have that exercise is where you can walk or cycle, no going by car except to shop, work, childcare or to medical facilities."

We use car rides to calm our severely autistic son down and to go to the familiar outside spaces he can cope with. We wouldn't stick to a no driving rule because it would put him at risk.

@m0therofdragons

Why get angry about something that hasn’t happened? There’s enough stress without worrying about fictional measures.

They are checking where you come from in the countryside near where I live. Plenty of police tweets about people travelling into the area. It is confusing - we are in tier 4 and the people getting in trouble are coming from other tier 4 areas so there is a distance that has not been specified that is deemed reasonable/unreasonable. I live right on a county border. If I drive 5 mins to my local walk, will I get into trouble for crossing a county border to an area in the same tier as me? But people driving 45 mins from withinthe same county to that walk would not get into trouble?

* It is confusing - we are in tier 4 and the people getting in trouble are coming from other tier 4 areas so there is a distance that has not been specified that is deemed reasonable/unreasonable.*

I think the expectation is that you stay local (ie within your own area) for all essential travel eg for shopping and exercise. Travelling to another area in the same Tier isn't allowed. Although I don't think it has been sufficiently clearly documented .

Ooopa bold fail - top para was by @Fingfoxes which I was responding to

Omg OP your still going on about your right tovlwabe your house being taken away despite many telling you thats not true.

When will you usually admit that they aren't? You are allowed to leave your house for essential journeys, to meet a friend in your support bubble in the park socially distancing and for exercise.
NOONE IS STOPPING YOU LEAVING YOUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!

Can you finally agree all your assumptions and hysteria is incorrect, can you finally get it and stop harping on that your not going to allow the government to stop you leaving your house when THEY NEVER HAVE!!!!

Ffs how stupid can you get that you can't even understand that

People saying it was never a rule need to go back and watch the press releases during this timeframe, might not have been law but it was most definitely implied and regulated in most area's to begin with

I can remember Boris and his miserable 'a walk, a run' speech.
And gove seeming to suggest that an hour's exercise is enough.

However no where in legislation were the forms of exercise we could do stipulated, note how often, nor a timescale given.

If some police forces handed fines to people based on assumptions about what the law said, that's shocking. We should be able to trust the police to know the law that they're upholding.