How long can they expect us to live like this for?

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Can someone please give me some positivity or any ideas of when we can regain some normality?

Mental health, domestic abuse and suicidal rates are all rising more than ever, children losing out education, people losing jobs, economy crashing ...the collateral damage is far worse.

We have a 1 in a million chance of dying from Covid yet we are living like this, a virus with a survival rate over 99% and were living like this.

Not saying we shouldn't take precautions, such as distancing, washing hands, window visits for elderly and vulnerable etc..but for us to live like this for something that has such a small chance at killing us, is just stupid beyond words.

Is there any chance all this can stop by April? Lighter restrictions? My mental health is suffering and I honestly cant take this anymore

Totally agree as well op, I stick to the rules but I'm absolutely pig sick and cannot believe how bad the U.K. is going to look when all this is actually over

It doesn’t help when petitions/other threads/social media are full of ‘close the schools!’, ‘stay inside!’, ‘everything non essential must close!’.

The pressure for the u-turn on schools in London for example and the fact that (apparently) this should mean all schools should close is immense. Everyone is scaremongering everyone else into paralysis - including the government - as otherwise they are heartless, profit driven (if they even think about the economy) or silly if they try and bring balance back to the conversation.

And for what?! Really quite minuscule death rates. Don’t get me wrong, any death is terrible but missed chemo appointments (and having been there I know how important it is these keep on track - I would be dead now had it not been for many, many interventions to keep me on track) are much more of a tragedy and these are being studiously avoided in the melee.

It’s politics by emotion, backed by ‘sage’ who will all get their public sector salaries, pensions and knighthoods anyway even if everything burns. But this way they can ensure the gravy train continues. After all, would sage have to continue if people just said right, back to work?

Thing is we are so far along this route now,

Sorry last sentence should have been deleted :) but I don’t know how we will get out of it now we are so far down the rabbit hole

I completely agree with the OP it’s awful. I am sick to death of it. I am also sick to death of people implying it is selfish to want our lives back just because some people have lost theirs. People have lost all concept of death and it’s honestly like before covid happened people were oblivious to the number of people who died each day. Yes covid is awful, yes a lot of people have died but these restrictions are too much now we are not living we are existing and being conditioned to think it’s for the greater good. It isn’t! The NHS and government has had months to prepare for what was going to be a very tough winter they haven’t and now yet again it’s down to everyone again to give up months of their lives to make up for their incompetence. The vaccine was a glimmer of hope but they have even managed to mess up the roll out of that and it’s no where near quick or efficient enough. I loved my life pre covid it was busy, full and fun. 2020 was the year my little girl was born and I am so happy about that but we need to get our heads out of this idea of the “new normal” and start pushing to get the old normal back.

@AnnaForbes

Op. I agree. How long are healthy people expected to live a vastly reduced life to protect those who are vulnerable? It will soon be a year. A year of my 3 dcs missing out on the things they love, a year of damage to our economy, ruined education and cancelled medical appointments. I think it is selfish to expect us to continue and I am angry and resentful . The question is what do we do about it?

Selfish of who? Who is being selfish here?

Social distancing isn't normal for friends and family. We can't see more than 6 people yet I can go to work every day with a hundred people who continually have to be reminded to distance. It's shit

Because the NHS wont be overwhelmed if you catch it at work but it will be overwhelmed if you catch it from visiting a relative and/or enjoying yourself. Even though you are at work more often than you are doing the other things.

I feel like it will never end. The vaccine will continue to be rolled out but isn't there now some debate about the 2nd dose coming too late? They don't even know how effective it is really. Spring it might ease a little, and in summer. Then they'll try to suppress it further whilst people can do more stuff outside ready for winter. Then it mutates. So they'll lock down and try to get a new version. Then they'll ease it a little, well have a reprieve, then it'll be something else, a mutation of another virus and it'll just keep going.

I honestly feel like my kids will never get a normal life, the youngest will never get to do about of the things the eldest did because it will always be too risky (eldest had underlying issues but we were removed from the shortlisting list last summer), they'll have a much more perfunctory relationship with family because they'll hardly see them, they'll grow up used to literally keeping people an arm's length away which will affect their emotional and personal development. They'll be worked with years of disrupted education meaning they'll either be expected to stay on longer or it'll be more pressure when school is open which will affect their mental well-being. And then with Brexit and the environment and everything else there will be no bloody jobs anyway and they'll grow up an angry generation who hate their parents for the world we've given them

@Katie517

I completely agree with the OP it’s awful. I am sick to death of it. I am also sick to death of people implying it is selfish to want our lives back just because some people have lost theirs. People have lost all concept of death and it’s honestly like before covid happened people were oblivious to the number of people who died each day. Yes covid is awful, yes a lot of people have died but these restrictions are too much now we are not living we are existing and being conditioned to think it’s for the greater good. It isn’t! The NHS and government has had months to prepare for what was going to be a very tough winter they haven’t and now yet again it’s down to everyone again to give up months of their lives to make up for their incompetence. The vaccine was a glimmer of hope but they have even managed to mess up the roll out of that and it’s no where near quick or efficient enough. I loved my life pre covid it was busy, full and fun. 2020 was the year my little girl was born and I am so happy about that but we need to get our heads out of this idea of the “new normal” and start pushing to get the old normal back.

Me, me, me, me, me

‘It doesn’t help when petitions/other threads/social media are full of ‘close the schools!’, ‘stay inside!’, ‘everything non essential must close!’.

The pressure for the u-turn on schools in London for example and the fact that (apparently) this should mean all schools should close is immense. Everyone is scaremongering everyone else into paralysis - including the government - as otherwise they are heartless, profit driven (if they even think about the economy) or silly if they try and bring balance back to the conversation’

There is a REASON why the pressure is so immense, not everyone thinks like you🤷🏼‍♀️

* I completely agree with the OP it’s awful. I am sick to death of it. I am also sick to death of people implying it is selfish to want our lives back just because some people have lost theirs. People have lost all concept of death and it’s honestly like before covid happened people were oblivious to the number of people who died each day. Yes covid is awful, yes a lot of people have died but these restrictions are too much now we are not living we are existing and being conditioned to think it’s for the greater good. It isn’t! The NHS and government has had months to prepare for what was going to be a very tough winter they haven’t and now yet again it’s down to everyone again to give up months of their lives to make up for their incompetence. The vaccine was a glimmer of hope but they have even managed to mess up the roll out of that and it’s no where near quick or efficient enough. I loved my life pre covid it was busy, full and fun. 2020 was the year my little girl was born and I am so happy about that but we need to get our heads out of this idea of the “new normal” and start pushing to get the old normal back *

Nothing more depressing than realising there are people amongst us who actually have this mindset. The sheer egocentricity. The ignorance. I honestly despair.

It's not easy but we are going to have to face facts
This new scourge will never go away, we have to learn to live around it

I think most of us all liked our life pre Covid.

And now it’s shit for everyone. But doing what you want will just make it worse...

Been alone for months.

Saw no-one at Christmas or New Years.

When my elderly and sick cat dies I will probably give up altogether

Forever OP, project fear is in full force, teachers have walked off the job, it'll be posties and supermarket workers next.

We've let the hysterical snowflakes take over the asylum, life as we knew it has gone

@ofgavin

Forever OP, project fear is in full force, teachers have walked off the job, it'll be posties and supermarket workers next.

We've let the hysterical snowflakes take over the asylum, life as we knew it has gone

Where have teachers walked off the job?

The new cycle thrives on ratcheting up sensational (bad) news.
There are lots of positive rthimfs that get barely reported -like Storm Bella wind power generating half the UK power needs over that period, but news of schools closures and ‘mutant ninja zombie virus killing children’ is better click bait for advertisers.

@EmmanuelleMakro

The new cycle thrives on ratcheting up sensational (bad) news. There are lots of positive rthimfs that get barely reported -like Storm Bella wind power generating half the UK power needs over that period, but news of schools closures and ‘mutant ninja zombie virus killing children’ is better click bait for advertisers.

That stuff about a ward full of children was just appalling, designed to make us hysterical.

Yep. And even when the information is refuted - hospitals confirming that no, there isn’t a surge of cases in children and studies showing that the new variant is no more deadly/likely to cause hospitalisation, people still cling to the bad news. It’s like they want things to be worse than they are.

people still cling to the bad news. It’s like they want things to be worse than they are
Yes!

It’s a strange phenomenon.