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How long can they expect us to live like this for?

220 replies

WithLotsOfSprinkles0 · 30/12/2020 21:15

Can someone please give me some positivity or any ideas of when we can regain some normality?

Mental health, domestic abuse and suicidal rates are all rising more than ever, children losing out education, people losing jobs, economy crashing ...the collateral damage is far worse.

We have a 1 in a million chance of dying from Covid yet we are living like this, a virus with a survival rate over 99% and were living like this.

Not saying we shouldn't take precautions, such as distancing, washing hands, window visits for elderly and vulnerable etc..but for us to live like this for something that has such a small chance at killing us, is just stupid beyond words.

Is there any chance all this can stop by April? Lighter restrictions? My mental health is suffering and I honestly cant take this anymore

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southeastdweller · 01/01/2021 18:05

@Confusedcabbage

"it has such a low risk of killing me". Bit self absorbed there OP, just because it's got a low risk of killing YOU doesn't mean you wouldn't spread it and kill lots of people at higher risk. Happy to kill people for a better social life?
Oh come on, that's verging on bullying.
pursuedbyablackdog · 01/01/2021 18:12

Restrictions have never been about stopping people catching Covid and dying. It's always been about making sure the NHS doesn't become gridlocked, so non Covid pts can still get health care. In four days we've had 200,000 new cases approx 20% of those will need a hospital bed. That's for Covid...what about heart attack; stroke; meningitis; encephalitis; septicaemia; aneurysm; bad fractures caused by falling on ice; pneumonia and COPD.... the list goes on, massive amount of illnesses (survivable in precovid times now risk becoming fatal). Even if you and your family are really fit and healthy, you can not be certain you won't become ill and need hospital treatment.

Bollss · 01/01/2021 18:46

@Wheresyourclapham

‘...Happy to kill people for a better social life?’

@Confusedcabbage
Perfect line! I’m going to start using that line with the Covidiots I have the displeasure to know!

Says much more about you than it does about them.
bumbleymummy · 01/01/2021 18:53

Where are you getting 20% from?

IHTC · 01/01/2021 18:58

Feeling exactly the same. Sick of hearing "there is light at the end of the tunnel" how long is this bastard tunnel? They keep dangling carrots we'll never catch. Nearly a year on we're somehow in a much worse place despite now having 2 approved vaccines. Fucking shit show.

WithLotsOfSprinkles0 · 01/01/2021 19:00

@Xerochrysum

All more reason to totally agree with Foreveraintenough. Op has now descended into unfounded, quite sickening personal attack on the poster, I was so shocked to read her post, wish MNHQ could leave it stand so everyone can see what kind of poster OP is.
No your mistaken, I had a personal attack against me. She declared I have no mental health issues and theres no need for any advice and told others to ignore me though she has never actually seen me in real life and only has a post to go by her 'diagnosis'. Its patronising, demeaning, inaccurate and could be potentially harmful if I do indeed have mental health issues and I'm coming on here to vent and being told by a complete and utter stranger there is nothing wrong with me just because they want to troll. I quite rightly told her to fuck off.
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WithLotsOfSprinkles0 · 01/01/2021 19:02

@IHTC

Feeling exactly the same. Sick of hearing "there is light at the end of the tunnel" how long is this bastard tunnel? They keep dangling carrots we'll never catch. Nearly a year on we're somehow in a much worse place despite now having 2 approved vaccines. Fucking shit show.
Exactly it's frustrating.

People just need to vent and you would think an anonymous site is just good for venting.

I'm hoping some normality is back by Easter - it's not to go to a pub, just to be able to organise something for my child and have them interact with other children.

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gypsywater · 01/01/2021 19:02

I can't take any OPs seriously when they are getting their posts actually deleted. If you can't make a point without getting deleted, do you even have a point...?

Xerochrysum · 01/01/2021 19:07

Ok, so she has said you don't have MH issues, you needed to attack her about her personal sexual life..... Very relevant and indeed justified. Hmm

LindaEllen · 01/01/2021 19:07

@Tootsey11

I think those of you moaning that you can't cope really need to put things into perspective. Out of a lifetime this will be a short period of time. Yes, it's shit. I wonder how many of you are healthy, because more than going to restaurants or the cinema, or going to a pub or on holiday, I would give anything just to have my health. I don't give a monkeys about any of those things. I developed 2 new chronic conditions this year, I'm in pain 24/7. There is no cure, I will die with these. These new ones are on top of the other 9 I have. I read on here daily about people whinging that they can't do this and that, do any of you think about people who are worse of.
How fucking dare you play down people's experiences of mental health. How. Fucking. Dare. You.

It's not a competition of who has it worst.

It's shit for everyone in different ways.

People are struggling and that is valid. You cannot take that away from them, and shouldn't try.

Confusedcabbage · 01/01/2021 19:11

How? What bit of it isn't true?

gypsywater · 01/01/2021 19:40

OP you sound just hideous

shamalidacdak · 01/01/2021 19:42

@Callcat

It has destroyed my entire life.
This sounds like dramatic exaggeration. War, starvation will destroy your life, not temporary restrictions on movement to save society.
Foreveraintenough · 01/01/2021 19:42

@WithLotsOfSprinkles0 I told people to ignore you as you are clearly only interested in spreading lies online under the guise of needing ‘help’ with your mental health. What is incorrect about that? You have been very clear.

I took time out of my day as did other posters to write to you with tips and ideas for getting through lockdown and to help you. You completely ignored every single one of those posts instead descending into a rant

‘People are saying you died of covid if you are in a car crash’ ‘people are swabbing muddy puddles and getting positive covid tests’ and so on. All of which are outright lies designed to scaremonger.

I likely did not see your post attacking me but I can only guess from what the poster said above that you searched me and saw I am doing ivf and decided to attack me on the basis of my infertility which really shows you up for the nasty troll you are. I hope you are ashamed of yourself

Feministicon · 01/01/2021 19:44

One foot in front of the other is all I’m doing, hanging in there for my kids and trying it to think about when it will be over and it will be over one day.

gypsywater · 01/01/2021 19:45

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JovialNickname · 01/01/2021 19:58

It's been said - and queried - a lot on this thread that if only people would comply, the restrictions would be over sooner.

I read an interesting post on another thread that said no actually, the longer people comply, the longer restrictions will go on for. As soon as people don't comply, in any meaningful number, the restrictions will have to stop. The restrictions are only going on endlessly because we are endlessly complying with them.

Zenithbear · 01/01/2021 20:02

It's having the end date constantly moved.
We'll lock down for 3 weeks which became two months. We'll lock down for a month to save Christmas, which for most wasn't saved. And the contradictory mad rules.
Lock downs do not work, masks and gloves don't work, shutting pubs, restaurants and shops doesn't work. Washing hands properly probably does help somewhat.
Social distancing isn't normal for friends and family. We can't see more than 6 people yet I can go to work every day with a hundred people who continually have to be reminded to distance. It's shit.
I love being with dp and our dogs and we have done so much to our home but we normally have fantastic social lives of gigs, parties, holidays, hobbies, clubs, get togethers and we want it all back.

Feministicon · 01/01/2021 20:07

@Tootsey11

I think those of you moaning that you can't cope really need to put things into perspective. Out of a lifetime this will be a short period of time. Yes, it's shit. I wonder how many of you are healthy, because more than going to restaurants or the cinema, or going to a pub or on holiday, I would give anything just to have my health. I don't give a monkeys about any of those things. I developed 2 new chronic conditions this year, I'm in pain 24/7. There is no cure, I will die with these. These new ones are on top of the other 9 I have. I read on here daily about people whinging that they can't do this and that, do any of you think about people who are worse of.
Ewww, mental health issues are medical issues as valid as your physical ones and just as deadly. Minimise much? You are coming across as deeply unpleasant but I assume that is because you yourself are in chronic pain and fearful.
Confusedcabbage · 01/01/2021 20:12

Gosh there's a lot of not very resilient people about. Yes it's shit but come on, you're not in the trenches, you're not in a war zone, you're not a refugee. Grow up.

southeastdweller · 01/01/2021 20:14

@Confusedcabbage

Gosh there's a lot of not very resilient people about. Yes it's shit but come on, you're not in the trenches, you're not in a war zone, you're not a refugee. Grow up.
Get some empathy.
Feministicon · 01/01/2021 20:21

@Confusedcabbage

Gosh there's a lot of not very resilient people about. Yes it's shit but come on, you're not in the trenches, you're not in a war zone, you're not a refugee. Grow up.
It’s seems it is in fact you who has a lot of growing up to do.
Xerochrysum · 01/01/2021 20:28

@Foreveraintenough, for clarification, Op did not say anything about IVF. She said something in line with you being "sexually frustrated(op's word)"

Allispretty · 01/01/2021 20:31

@Confusedcabbage

Gosh there's a lot of not very resilient people about. Yes it's shit but come on, you're not in the trenches, you're not in a war zone, you're not a refugee. Grow up.

How do you know what any individual circumstance is like? Someone could be getting beaten black and blue daily, living off food banks, living alone miles away from family? You need to grow up and show some empathy. The issue is people on here are up in arms about everyone sticking to restrictions but are total hypocrites with an "I'm alright Jack" attitude!

Foreveraintenough · 01/01/2021 20:31

Ah ok @Xerochrysum that’s not so bad then. Just a standard insult!

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