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List of primary school closure areas

201 replies

Lumene · 30/12/2020 17:10

mobile.twitter.com/Smyth_Chris/status/1344328822007750657

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baroqueandblue · 31/12/2020 12:34

I admit to making a hysterical accusation, but my niece is medically vulnerable so it's a sore point. Plus we all live in the borough of Greenwich and it feels painfully personal, speaking as a resident of long standing who has rarely had cause to complain about our Labour controlled council or my MP. If you've studied the nasty arrogance of this government at all, you wouldn't put it past them to be playing political games with people's lives.

They don't give a toss about teachers and in my opinion they still have a covert herd immunity agenda which they're loathe to drop. It frightens and disgusts me, and in that space I don't always measure my words.

I'm just sorry that the virus hasn't ravaged their lives the way it has the lives of so many vulnerable families.

HeronLanyon · 31/12/2020 13:20

dreaming excellent point. I confess every now and then I wish I had almost kept notes of what was said when but I’ve ended up hopelessly confused about what happened when and for what reason etc. I’m furious about this schools madness. I have an ‘open’ primary on my street and although without primary aged kids I feel as a resident my own streets and neighbours and those working there are now not able to ‘stay home/stay safe’ despite being bordered on three sides by corrigés with lower rates which are shut. I’m furious for us all - the open the shut the north etc. Even more infuriating is lack of info about why.

HeronLanyon · 31/12/2020 13:23

Boroughs not corrigés. My keyboard turned French there for a mo.

HeyBaby2020 · 31/12/2020 13:31

@baroqueandblue

Jeez, this is turning me into a conspiracy theorist!

It's turning my stomach. The race to be London mayor is well and truly on. What are we supposed to think - vote Labour and the government will take your kids and teachers hostage? This is a direct result of their unbounded giddy arrogance over Brexit. The Tories are owning us.

What a load of bollocks get a grip 😂😂
dreamingbohemian · 31/12/2020 13:54

@HeronLanyon

dreaming excellent point. I confess every now and then I wish I had almost kept notes of what was said when but I’ve ended up hopelessly confused about what happened when and for what reason etc. I’m furious about this schools madness. I have an ‘open’ primary on my street and although without primary aged kids I feel as a resident my own streets and neighbours and those working there are now not able to ‘stay home/stay safe’ despite being bordered on three sides by corrigés with lower rates which are shut. I’m furious for us all - the open the shut the north etc. Even more infuriating is lack of info about why.
Yes too many people are overlooking this aspect -- it's not just about what happens inside the schools, it's the fact that you have hundreds of people in one location twice a day. This is not great for people living in those areas either.

For our own school run, we have to wade through the drop off crowds for two private schools, with people coming from all over London, before we even get to our own state school, which is surrounded by residential housing. Yes it's all outdoors but if the new variant is much more contagious, this is less reassuring than it used to be.

pommedeterre · 31/12/2020 14:18

So if you close the schools then you punish the kids for the adults being shitheads/crap (not being able to distance/not chat and not coming in with drop off and collection procedures).

pommedeterre · 31/12/2020 14:18

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HibernatingTill2030 · 31/12/2020 14:35

Well kids get punished for adults being shitheads all the time.
EG, attendance awards. In some (probably rare) cases, the adult can't be arsed to get the kid to school or keeps them off for stupid reasons.
Kids get shafted by government cuts to schools, because adults vote for parties who cut public services.
Young people are shafted by all sorts of things older generations do/vote for etc.
Kids with shit parents get doubly shafted. They didn't ask to be born into that family.
It's nothing new really.

pommedeterre · 31/12/2020 14:47

Right. So lets just perpetuate the shines through actual government policy and crap school boards. Awesome, what a society!

pommedeterre · 31/12/2020 14:48

shines = SHITNESS

dreamingbohemian · 31/12/2020 14:49

@pommedeterre

So if you close the schools then you punish the kids for the adults being shitheads/crap (not being able to distance/not chat and not coming in with drop off and collection procedures).
We're not being crap Hmm. If you have hundreds of people going to one specific location within a short timeframe, there's no way everyone can properly distance.

London schools tend to not have huge open spaces around them, even with staggered timings you can't avoid having big crowds in constricted areas.

The school closest to us is on a very small side street and has two small entrances. There is literally nowhere for people to go, and no way to avoid the crowd if you have to go down that street.

It's outdoors and people do wear masks so hopefully the risk is low, but I completely understand why people living around schools are worried too.

pommedeterre · 31/12/2020 16:10

Surely you can go staggered entrance and exit for year groups though?

dreamingbohemian · 31/12/2020 16:44

8 year groups at one school with up to 100 kids per year group?

Yes groups are staggered, it doesn't completely solve the problem. To stagger in such a way that everyone can properly distance outside, it would take all morning just to get everyone in the building.

It's not about people being lazy, it is just the sheer numbers in a small physical space.

Char2015 · 31/12/2020 17:07

My child's school is opening up their Reception Classes to all recption children. I'm sure this is against the plans outlined by DfE.

baroqueandblue · 31/12/2020 17:19

What a load of bollocks get a grip 😂😂

Wake up

Lumene · 31/12/2020 17:25

My child's school is opening up their Reception Classes to all recption children. I'm sure this is against the plans outlined by DfE.

No, early years can remain open at the school’s discretion. This includes rnursery and reception.

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Char2015 · 31/12/2020 17:33

@Lumene

My child's school is opening up their Reception Classes to all recption children. I'm sure this is against the plans outlined by DfE.

No, early years can remain open at the school’s discretion. This includes rnursery and reception.

I see. Thanks for clarifying.
BertNErnie · 01/01/2021 10:53

[quote pusscatsinblankets]@BertNErnie Haringey is hugely polarised. Yes the west side has lots of wealth, but the east is a completely different story and contains some of the most deprived areas in the country. [/quote]
I agree with you - I grew up there, however I wanted to make the point to people who might not know the area that there most definitely are places in the borough that are home to very very wealthy families.

HeronLanyon · 01/01/2021 12:04

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HeronLanyon · 01/01/2021 12:05

I identified link above is to bbc news just now - all open boroughs except Kingston and city of london write demanding reasoning etc. Talk of court challenge.

thepeopleversuswork · 01/01/2021 12:14

There is no way this patchwork approach is sustainable. I would put money on a u-turn before Jan 4th and if the government holds its nerve there will be massive non compliance.

CarlottaValdez · 01/01/2021 12:39

all open boroughs except Kingston and city of london write demanding reasoning etc. Talk of court challenge

I don’t disagree with them but are they all labour? Just seems weird to be all except Kingston (lib dem). City of London isn’t a borough I don’t think.

HeronLanyon · 01/01/2021 12:43

City is definitely not a borough but is impacted just as all boroughs by the divide. I thought Kingston was classic Lib Dem prevarication !? (Own views only obvs)

CarlottaValdez · 01/01/2021 12:45

I thought Kingston was classic Lib Dem prevarication !? (Own views only obvs)

Sounds right to be fair.

HeronLanyon · 01/01/2021 15:26

The bbc news story has been updated - city of london policy chair signed it. So that leaves Kingston as the only non signatory.