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Just lock us down before the vaccine!

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DinosaurDildo · 29/12/2020 21:12

Lock us down and be done with it until Feb/March or whenever the vaccine is established. All schools off too (health trumps education).

One last shit show, then we will never have to do it again.

The light IS at the end of the tunnel. (Vaccine, hurrah).

Let’s save lives whilst we can. We never know when we may need emergency NHS treatment.

For the record I’m not privileged, and I have three young kids who in the perfect covid free world I would much prefer to be AT school.

My friend thinks we should just get on with our lives “survival of the fittest”. Well bloody good luck with your survival rhetoric when you need a hospital bed for you or your child and there isn’t one......

Anyone else agree/disagree?

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Lairyfightzzzz · 30/12/2020 00:42

so distancing measures, masks, sanitise

Those things are happening now and they aren't helping.

It isn't enough.

ReesMoggsGlasses · 30/12/2020 00:44

Hand face palm, no talking any sense with Covid martyrs, good night

Lairyfightzzzz · 30/12/2020 00:44

And BTW I haven't been rude, but you have been rude and aggressive in all your posts. I am not some lockdown frenzied curtain twitcher salivating with delight at the thought of staying indoors for the next two months. I am a parent of a young child, a carer, an employee and someone with a mental health condition living in a small gardenless flat, who nonetheless recognises that with the numbers as they are it is untenable for schools to remain open.

You can think what you like about me.

orangeribbon · 30/12/2020 00:59

@AlwaysLatte

Come on Boris. Do something right for once and shut everything except absolute essential work down and give the hospitals a fighting chance. Fine people who break the rules. It's temporary. Unfortunately he likes to listen to the ones who shout loudest and sometimes, as some of the ignorant people on here have demonstrated in this thread alone, they're the least educated.
Agreed. 10 week lockdown (including schools) strictly enforced. We all know what needs to be done to beat this.
Forgetmenot157 · 30/12/2020 01:04

If they could absolutely garuntee we would go back to normal after (which the can't) then I would be all for it.

AcornAutumn · 30/12/2020 01:10

@user1494055864

All hail the mighty vaccine!! Personally I think you sound like a nutcase op. Not everyone is waiting for a mighty saviour wielding a needle you know Hmm
Indeed

Lord knows what OP plans for the next pandemic.

southeastdweller · 30/12/2020 08:26

^AlwaysLatte
Come on Boris. Do something right for once and shut everything except absolute essential work down and give the hospitals a fighting chance. Fine people who break the rules. It's temporary.
Unfortunately he likes to listen to the ones who shout loudest and sometimes, as some of the ignorant people on here have demonstrated in this thread alone, they're the least educated.
Agreed. 10 week lockdown (including schools) strictly enforced. We all know what needs to be done to beat this.^

Beat what? COVID? You can’t beat a virus.

And guess what, the useless government can’t strictly enforce a lockdown - where do you think the money would come from to do so?

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:03

@Lairyfightzzzz

I’m not sure why you have people being rude to you when you have been nothing but respectful.

Perhaps it is a defence mechanism, you can’t just let things be. The tier systems were supposed to create a balance in life whilst we wait for vaccine rollout. They’re not working.

We need to give the NHS a break.

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:09

@user1494055864

It pretty much is the way out of restrictions though, the “mighty vaccin

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:12

Sorry, pressed too soon.

It’s the way out. We all want our lives back. Do you think the vaccine is going to be useless then? Or just that it will take a long time before life can resume to normal?

Covid will never be eliminated but surely we will get to the point when life resumes? And that’s all thanks to this vaccine. I find your comment strange. Modern science has saved us here (from this awful way of life).

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herecomesthsun · 30/12/2020 09:14

Just want to follow the science here. Very happy to listen to SAGE and Indie Sage (who seem broadly in agreement)

Good news about the Oxford vaccine though!

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:18

@southeastdweller

You might not beat it but you can reduce the level of impact the NHS currently faces. When that happens restrictions can ease. You do like to ignore that though as you do not respond to it.

The NHS needs a break now, it’s all well and good shipping people to Yorkshire from London but what happens when those beds fill up? The decisions that will then have to be made are unsavoury.

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Chaotic45 · 30/12/2020 09:19

@DinosaurDildo do you realise some people have to work to pay their bills (and their taxes which provide schools, NHS, furlough etc).. ?

Some jobs are completely impossible to do from home. Some of us have slipped through the net to get any financial assistance. I've had no help whatsoever despite paying higher rate tax since I left uni.- simply because I changed my business structure at the wrong time. So all my rainy day savings are now used up.

People are getting defensive because the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude of people who lack empathy for situations different to their own is frustrating.

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:24

@Chaotic45

The reason why I am calling for the lockdown is because I have empathy, not because I don’t. I’ve already said I’m not privileged. My husband lost his job and we are now in credit cards to survive. Like I said before though I am not here to play covid oneupmanship.

The NHS needs a break, also you never know when you might need an emergency bed, covid or not.

I love how sure people are that they won’t be needing emergency medical treatment any time soon.

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pennylane83 · 30/12/2020 09:29

Well for a start you do realise that everyone in the country eligible for a vaccine wont have had it by end of feb/mar. Also, there is a pretty good chance it will turn out the vaccination will need to be taken annually (like flu) so what do you propose - we lockdown the entire country every winter.

Remmy123 · 30/12/2020 09:30

You do realise OP it's going to take much longer than March to get people vaccinated? So deluded/short sighted.

Remmy123 · 30/12/2020 09:32

Lockdowns don't work anyway because people will not comply with staying in any more - had enough

Tearsfortiers · 30/12/2020 09:33

@Remmy123 OP is expecting everyone to be vaccinated by March - just the most vulnerable people that are likely to become very ill with Covid. That way they are protected, the NHS isn't at risk of being overwhelmed and lockdowns won't be necessary.

Tearsfortiers · 30/12/2020 09:34

*isn't

southeastdweller · 30/12/2020 09:36

@Remmy123

You do realise OP it's going to take much longer than March to get people vaccinated? So deluded/short sighted.
OP thinks everything will be fine and dandy by March and it’s laughable. Back to normal my fat arse.
Toocold · 30/12/2020 09:38

Disagree as how will the NHS be paid for with a decimated economy? There needs to be a balance, there isn’t an endless money tree that pays for continuous lockdowns, from a health perspective more perhaps needs to be done but most people are fatigued by lockdown and are beginning to break rules. I’m really not sure what the answer is though. People need to work to be able to eat and have a house but at the same time I don’t want to see people ill or worse, it’s very easy to say health trumps everything but people won’t have health if they don’t eat or have shelter.

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:38

@pennylane83

Well that wouldn’t be the case would it as there would be an annual vaccination programme.
I’m well aware this won’t be eliminated.

Spring time brings a natural reduction of cases. There needs to be some easing of pressure in the NHS, even if we just lockdown for January. We are still kicking the can a bit down the road.

I could understand this mentality if we didn’t have a vaccine, but we do.

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DinosaurDildo · 30/12/2020 09:40

@Toocold

Ooo I dunno this government seems to find plenty of money from that old money tree.

Either way the economy is decimated I’m afraid.

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pennylane83 · 30/12/2020 09:41

@Theunamedcat

Other countries would vaccinate faster test more our so called military support amounts to zoom meeting and phone support because they are valuable resources not to be wasted

With more vaccines and people we could vaccinate faster get it over quicker but our government is dragging their heels again

Wow, you really think the government are purposefully dragging their heels. Currently there is only the pfzier vaccine being administered and only so much can be manufactured at any one time. Unless it has escaped your attention it is being used in the fight against this 'global' pandemic with a huge number of countries also having the vaccine on order. What, is everyone else supposed to wait until the end of next year to vaccinate their populations because the UK is far too important or do we just have to act fairly, vaccinating those most in need with the quantities available to us at any given time so that other countries can do the same whilst we all wait for the approval of other vaccines coming onto the market.
WanderingMilly · 30/12/2020 09:42

Yes, I absolutely agree with this.
For those who say 'lockdown in November didn't work'...November wasn't a proper lockdown at all. Schools all back, uni students having parties, no curfew.....
Sadly it won't happen and we'll drag on and on, making more misery in the long run than a real push to end this would.