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Just lock us down before the vaccine!

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DinosaurDildo · 29/12/2020 21:12

Lock us down and be done with it until Feb/March or whenever the vaccine is established. All schools off too (health trumps education).

One last shit show, then we will never have to do it again.

The light IS at the end of the tunnel. (Vaccine, hurrah).

Let’s save lives whilst we can. We never know when we may need emergency NHS treatment.

For the record I’m not privileged, and I have three young kids who in the perfect covid free world I would much prefer to be AT school.

My friend thinks we should just get on with our lives “survival of the fittest”. Well bloody good luck with your survival rhetoric when you need a hospital bed for you or your child and there isn’t one......

Anyone else agree/disagree?

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Allispretty · 29/12/2020 23:25

Yawn these threads are getting really tedious...and also prove my point on another thread about the fact people on here seem to be salivating at the thought of another lockdown

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DinosaurDildo · 29/12/2020 23:26

@MandosHatHair

Nope because my husband was made redundant. I guess that makes me lucky Hmm, you know living on one wage now with three kids. I’m ecstatic about that.

You know what though? I’m not here to play covid oneupmanship. There’s plenty out there who have it better than me and plenty worse.

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Allispretty · 29/12/2020 23:27

[quote DinosaurDildo]@EasterIssland

You are being pedantic, I care deeply about kids MH, including my own.

There is no room for blurred boundaries here though. There is no time.

So yes at the minute, this trumps it all. In MY ideal world, we would lock down now, kids out of school and MASS vaccination of the vulnerable groups.

Only then can children have a sustainable education because what they currently have with this stop/start fiasco, is utter bullshit.

Dragging this out isn’t good for anyone’s mental health, kids included. The nation needs stability.[/quote]
I wonder how sure you'll be about this in 5 years when your darling children have been set back years in their education due to this and children after them will have better prospects 🤔 no im not being overboard there are already ongoing discussions on how some children are 20 months behind now due to 6 months off school

FourTeaFallOut · 29/12/2020 23:27

Not really, we have our own business and I'd rather not have a lockdown for the fun of it.

ReesMoggsGlasses · 29/12/2020 23:27

Yes, let's stop breathing and living until the vaccine is established, which by the way will be the 12th of NEVER... There's some seriously fcuk'd up people around at the moment who want to basically completely screw up this country and sit on their arses doing f all, your all bonkers.

Allispretty · 29/12/2020 23:28

@ReesMoggsGlasses

Yes, let's stop breathing and living until the vaccine is established, which by the way will be the 12th of NEVER... There's some seriously fcuk'd up people around at the moment who want to basically completely screw up this country and sit on their arses doing f all, your all bonkers.
Exactly and this is exactly how I see it on here as well it's just lazy people wanting to sit on their arses doing nothing..if there was any genuine worry behind these threads I'd maybe understand but it's the tone of them the excitement and hysteria over a potential lockdown I can almost picture people sat rubbing their hands in excitement Confused
Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:28

Frankly the best thing to do for anyone's mental health right now is to do all we can to get the numbers low again.

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:29

And BTW I say that as someone with a mental health condition myself, with a young child, living in a small flat with no outdoor space whilst also trying to wfh.

EasterIssland · 29/12/2020 23:30

[quote DinosaurDildo]@EasterIssland

You are being pedantic, I care deeply about kids MH, including my own.

There is no room for blurred boundaries here though. There is no time.

So yes at the minute, this trumps it all. In MY ideal world, we would lock down now, kids out of school and MASS vaccination of the vulnerable groups.

Only then can children have a sustainable education because what they currently have with this stop/start fiasco, is utter bullshit.

Dragging this out isn’t good for anyone’s mental health, kids included. The nation needs stability.[/quote]
Thanks about the pedantic comment.

I’ve 3 nephews in primary and secondary. Only one of them has isolated for 2 weeks. My son is in nursery. He was 1 week in isolation since July that he’s been back. So whilst your kids might have been on/off not all kids have.

In my ideal world people would follow the rules (there was a thread aboir a tier 4 person wanting to do a nye party for 30 people). That for me is a trigger ... there will e loads like that. And because of selfish behaviours like that one we will all end In lockdown with schools closed. And guess what ? The virus will still be here. What makes you think that by March everything will be over ... when experts are saying that at least til the middle half of 2021 we won’t be able to recover normality. Do you want 6 months of lockdown?

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:30

Exactly and this is exactly how I see it on here as well it's just lazy people wanting to sit on their arses doing nothing..if there was any genuine worry behind these threads I'd maybe understand but it's the tone of them the excitement and hysteria over a potential lockdown I can almost picture people sat rubbing their hands in excitement

Yes that's right, I'm absolutely beside myself with joy at the thought of trying to care for my 4 year old, care for my CV mother and also WFH for the next month.

Please. I'd much rather he were at school, but I don't think it is safe for him to be there and I don't think it is safe for them to be open to all children.

ReesMoggsGlasses · 29/12/2020 23:31

@Lairyfightzzzz

Exactly and this is exactly how I see it on here as well it's just lazy people wanting to sit on their arses doing nothing..if there was any genuine worry behind these threads I'd maybe understand but it's the tone of them the excitement and hysteria over a potential lockdown I can almost picture people sat rubbing their hands in excitement

Yes that's right, I'm absolutely beside myself with joy at the thought of trying to care for my 4 year old, care for my CV mother and also WFH for the next month.

Please. I'd much rather he were at school, but I don't think it is safe for him to be there and I don't think it is safe for them to be open to all children.

Nothing is 109% safe, we live, we die

Get over it, you are ruining your children's futures

Mulhollandmagoo · 29/12/2020 23:32

@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady

We dont need EVERYONE to be vaccinated to reduce pressure on NHS and therefore ease lockdown.

Why don't people understand this?! It's been publicised enough.

We need time to vaccinate the ones most likely to need hospital care and we need to close schools to reduce pressure on services until the numbers in hospital have come down.

This exactly!!!! A hard lockdown for the month of Jan, possibly into early Feb would give enough time (if organised efficiently, and timely approval of the AZ vaccine) to vaccinate the most vulnerable, and frontline NHS and care staff, meaning that hospital admissions and deaths would drastically reduce.

Not the whole country needs to have had a vaccine for it to be effective enough to make a difference, just a select few

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:32

There is a huge spectrum of experience between "normality" and the kind of terrifying numbers seen today EasterIssland.

Surely you realise that?

BubbleBaubles · 29/12/2020 23:32

@DinosaurDildo

Bit of a difference between a 10 year old child and a Year 10 child.

Allispretty · 29/12/2020 23:32

@Lairyfightzzzz

Exactly and this is exactly how I see it on here as well it's just lazy people wanting to sit on their arses doing nothing..if there was any genuine worry behind these threads I'd maybe understand but it's the tone of them the excitement and hysteria over a potential lockdown I can almost picture people sat rubbing their hands in excitement

Yes that's right, I'm absolutely beside myself with joy at the thought of trying to care for my 4 year old, care for my CV mother and also WFH for the next month.

Please. I'd much rather he were at school, but I don't think it is safe for him to be there and I don't think it is safe for them to be open to all children.

Your 4 year old is perfectly safe in school this is the kind of hysteria I'm talking about if YOU feel worried then take YOUR child out of school I want my 8 year old ds at school where he is happiest amongst friends and learning
Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:33

Every single respected epidemiologist has said from the start that unless we got the virus under control at the start of the pandemic, and then implemented decent tracks and trace and proper support for cases or suspected cases/contacts to isolate, it would be stop start lockdown for the foreseeable future.

They were correct. If you're angry with anyone, be angry with Boris and his gang of clowns.

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DinosaurDildo · 29/12/2020 23:33

@Allispretty

My little darlings were already disadvantaged it’s called inequality. Nothing new.

This stop/start is a pretend education, and it’s terrible for MH. Young people need certainty and stability.

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Allispretty · 29/12/2020 23:36

[quote DinosaurDildo]@Allispretty

My little darlings were already disadvantaged it’s called inequality. Nothing new.

This stop/start is a pretend education, and it’s terrible for MH. Young people need certainty and stability.[/quote]
And it's better for their Mh to be locked at home whilst you try to homeschool because let's be honest here we are not teachers and we cannot give our children the education they receive in a school setting...you can speak for yourself my child and many others I know are much happier children being at school.

People are literally ruining their children's futures over this it's pathetic

PerveenMistry · 29/12/2020 23:37

@ReesMoggsGlasses

Yes, let's stop breathing and living until the vaccine is established, which by the way will be the 12th of NEVER... There's some seriously fcuk'd up people around at the moment who want to basically completely screw up this country and sit on their arses doing f all, your all bonkers.

There are some seriously thick and ignorant people on this planet as the above demonstrates.

Stupidity is triumphant over science.

EasterIssland · 29/12/2020 23:37

@Lairyfightzzzz

There is a huge spectrum of experience between "normality" and the kind of terrifying numbers seen today EasterIssland.

Surely you realise that?

And you realise that people aren’t following the rules. That schools closed over 10’days ago so many of those numbers are post schools closing ? You just have to read many of rhe mn threads where people are saying they’re following their life as of nothing was happening ... and in a few days time we will start seeing the “save the Xmas” numbers as well. Is that schools fault as well?
Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:37

Your 4 year old is perfectly safe in school this is the kind of hysteria I'm talking about if YOU feel worried then take YOUR child out of school I want my 8 year old ds at school where he is happiest amongst friends and learning

I see no evidence whatsoever that he is safe, given we don't know the long term effects of covid and it has already been proven to have affected the heart and lungs.

More to the point, I am carer to his CV grandmother and she certainly isn't safe.

And I have pulled him out already and will continue to keep him out of school with the numbers as they are no matter what Boris and Co say. Before you accuse me of hysteria you might want to a) consider that you don't know me or my circumstances and b) maybe refrain from aggressive caps in your posts.

I completely understand how important it is for children to be at school. However, the fact of the matter is it is now no longer safe for schools to be fully open.

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:38

And you realise that people aren’t following the rules.

Yes, and my belief is that compliance is lower in general when schools are open as people, whether consciously or not, feel it gives them a green light to do other things.

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:41

People are literally ruining their children's futures over this it's pathetic

My father grew up an orphan in a dictatorship where he was regularly beaten, sexually abused, starved and went cold.

A couple of months out of school, for the vast majority of children from stable home environments is not going to ruin their entire futures. Now who is being hysterical!

ScoobySnacker · 29/12/2020 23:42

Young people need certainty and stability? Can you explain what that looks like for my 15 year old then? What is the certainty for her exams, her college place her long term future. Or is that just hard luck?

Lairyfightzzzz · 29/12/2020 23:45

Or is that just hard luck?

Pretty much, yes, and you have the government to thank for that for not doing what they were advised to do in February, and then repeating that same mistake ever since.

We never needed to be in this position and it is criminal.