53,000 cases today

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Shit

Feel free though to get swept along in the hysteria and panic-mongering which has been the speciality of this forum since February. The rest of us are just getting on with living.

There’s a thread on AIBU at the moment, asking for the experiences of HCP throughout the UK. One has replied And for those who think covid only kills the old and the sick, the average age in my ITU is 43 (21-59) most had nothing serious wrong with them before otherwise they wouldn't have been offered ECMO and would now be dead. Its sobering and quite frankly terrifying Does this count as hysteria and panic mongering in your book?

I'm sorry but even if half the tests are inaccurate, it's far too many. If these covidiots would stay inside for once instead of flouncing off to the gym or primark the second they're released from the cages of their homes, perhaps things would be different

Protect the vulnerable don’t destroy our future because of a disease with a 99 percent survival rate

99% based on availability at the hospitals.

That’ll go down as people are turned away.

Hmm and how often does your average hospital have multiple wards all full of patients with exactly the same diagnosis?

I won’t bother waiting for you to look it up because I can already tell you - never. That never happens.

Get your head out of your backside.

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If you were to run a PCR test at 40 cycles for influenza or rotavirus or rhinovirus or any of the other seasonal lineups in a winter ward in any year, and then label all admissions having tested positive as having this diagnosis, then in fact you would have just this.

Note that everyone in hospital, regardless of why they are there (hip replacement, chemo, whatever) is tested for C19. If they test positive, they are considered a C19 hospital case.

@Dipankrispaneven

Speaking as one of the 53,000, I wonder whether numbers have in part shot up due to delays in processing tests. It took over 6 days to get my result.

As of yesterday, tests took an average of 3.5 days: mobile.twitter.com/avds/status/1343612833154658311

@wanderings

That’s rubbish . The figures are out there all the time including excess deaths .

And considering the MSM a have relished in twisting facts themselves they would be on to any attempt of a cover up in a flash .

Anyone who wants to post a non researched comment does just that to stir things up . Then disappears as soon as they are challenged .

@Barmyfarmy

I'm sorry but even if half the tests are inaccurate, it's far too many. If these covidiots would stay inside for once instead of flouncing off to the gym or primark the second they're released from the cages of their homes, perhaps things would be different

It amazes me that anyone can be so cavalier about 66 million people forfeiting their way of life for almost a year now.

@MarshaBradyo

So if people are in denial you have to let them be some times. It is their brains way of coping. We are all different

I don’t think it’s denial to not post in same way as others do with shit! Omg! And all that. It’s seems so ott to freak out every time numbers go up. They’ll go up. Maybe they expect it more so opposite of denial.

Valid point.

It can definitely get hysterical the other way too.

I just prefer a decent debate without all the personal digs or guilt tripping. You learn more that way and hear each others opinions.

@Refractory

Hmm and how often does your average hospital have multiple wards all full of patients with exactly the same diagnosis?

I won’t bother waiting for you to look it up because I can already tell you - never. That never happens.

Get your head out of your backside.

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If you were to run a PCR test at 40 cycles for influenza or rotavirus or rhinovirus or any of the other seasonal lineups in a winter ward in any year, and then label all admissions having tested positive as having this diagnosis, then in fact you would have just this.

Note that everyone in hospital, regardless of why they are there (hip replacement, chemo, whatever) is tested for C19. If they test positive, they are considered a C19 hospital case.

Righto.

Have you ever considered that if a statement takes this much work to argue against and fantasy comparisons that you might be wrong?

@Madhairday

Sorry to hear that . Having had 4 members of my family with the virus last week I know how scary it can be .

We should all just be posting .... don’t feed the trolls .

Because that’s what they are . Ignorant lazy trolls.

just checked and my town is now 420.8/100,000 It was 94/100000 3 weeks ago

The figure isn’t accurate as takes into account some cases over Xmas period. Still a hell of a lot though. Tomorrow is not going to be a good news day - all banged into tier 4 I reckon.

*@x2boysjust saying I had a positive test. So you’re right I may not have had COVID-19 at all. Research into how accurate Oct tests are. The inventor of them has said they’re not designed for this purpose

No he didn’t. Quite unless they said it from the grave!

Imagine there is some processing delay due to the bank holidays and also many not testing until after Christmas to avoid isolating, missing out on Christmas dinner with mixed groups or shopping.

I don’t even want to think of what cases will be like in the next few weeks.

aNd I am sick of the 99% survival rate speel

1. it’s not accurate
2. why would we accept losing 1% of our population if we all caught it ? Use your maths ( if you actually went to school)

Our mp has said we are low down and rates are decreasing. South yorkshire. Keep the schools open. Tbh doesnt affect me acc. I'm a key worker and so is my husband. If the schools shut mine will still go.

[quote Northernsoulgirl45]*@x2boysjust saying I had a positive test. So you’re right I may not have had COVID-19 at all. Research into how accurate Oct tests are. The inventor of them has said they’re not designed for this purpose

No he didn’t. Quite unless they said it from the grave!

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He said that they're meant to diagnose individual cases, not be used at a population level. Because they are far too sensitive to be useful in this way.

You do realise that the WHO has conceded this point?

@BluebellsGreenbells

Protect the vulnerable don’t destroy our future because of a disease with a 99 percent survival rate

99% based on availability at the hospitals.

That’ll go down as people are turned away.

Absolutely.

The hospitals are always busy this time of year

Indeed they are.

And, for England, adding 20,407 covid patients is adding considerable stress.

Especially,as the highest number of inpatients at the first peak was 18,974 on 12/04

@Unsure33

aNd I am sick of the 99% survival rate speel

1. it’s not accurate
2. why would we accept losing 1% of our population if we all caught it ? Use your maths ( if you actually went to school)

It's inaccurate in that it's far too high. Please look at the WHO website papers estimating IFR.

There is an interesting discussion on the data thread about the 53k figure, and whether positivity rates have increased. Don't know how to link, but there are some interesting perspectives. (No denying either!)

I focus more on the deaths. Over 400 deaths, but they seem to be plateauing or dropping in some regions. We have to put this into perspective- lots of people get ill or pick up flus and viruses over winter. IMO it would make sense to isolate the over 65s, and vulnerable people, and leave others to just get through it. There are literally thousands who get the normal flu every year, and a small number of those people who fall into the elderly and vulnerable categories will die of it, or go on to get serious illnesses like pneumonia on the back of it. It’s got to the stage where the cure is going to create a worse scenario, longterm, than the virus itself. Tiers and lockdowns do not work. They reduce the figures for a short period, then they just go back up again as soon as lockdown is relaxed.

I focus more on the deaths. Over 400 deaths, but they seem to be plateauing or dropping in some regions

But surely they only reflect what was happening two / three weeks ago with regards to infections.

@starrynight19

I focus more on the deaths. Over 400 deaths, but they seem to be plateauing or dropping in some regions

But surely they only reflect what was happening two / three weeks ago with regards to infections.

They probably reflect what was happening three or four weeks ago. Cases then were less than half what they are now. It doesn't bode well.

So I can only conclude the virus is racist right? . Wtf with people throwing race into this. How ridiculous and pathetic! Frankly they should go and get therapy ASAP.