Announcement tomorrow what are youre predictions?

[Amira19]

PM is due to make an announcement tomorrow what are youre predictions. I suspect larges area of the North moving from tier 3 to tier 4 and potentially tier 5 (closing schools) in London. Personally I think a full lockdown like March is required too many are mixing between the tiers and thats all those posting in social media.

@wanderings

Look at Mumsnet practically drooling and salivating over lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, army patrolling the streets, ruined futures for their children, tier 5, schools closed for months and months.

The massive forthcoming recession, the complete destruction of people's lives and businesses, the isolation, the suicides, the obesity crisis, the mental health crisis simply don't matter at all... only this race to the bottom where all that matters is complete and utter misery.

Yes ^

I'd like a full lockdown now, for a whole month, all schools closed including primaries. Needs to be decided soon so that parents have enough time to adjust. There also needs to be more help for those whose work/finances/childcare is affected.

What do I think will actually happen? More messing about with Tiers, more of the country going into Tier 4, and Tier 5 threatened. Little help anywhere, threats and entreaties to stay at home and save others/NHS/lives etc. More dithering, trying to hang on until the vaccine kicks in, trying to keep primary schools open, going against the advice of SAGE and so forth.

When cases go sky high and the NHS is actually collapsing they might realise that, Oh dear, they should have done something sooner instead of pissing about....

Look at Mumsnet practically drooling and salivating over lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, army patrolling the streets, ruined futures for their children, tier 5, schools closed for months and months.The massive forthcoming recession, the complete destruction of people's lives and businesses, the isolation, the suicides, the obesity crisis, the mental health crisis simply don't matter at all... only this race to the bottom where all that matters is complete and utter misery

It certainly seems like this on here. It's a bit nuts.

As much as I hate the thought, I think all schools need to close for a few more weeks. I will just have to wfh and cope 😩

My prediction for predictions sake:

Everyone into tier four.
Year 7 - 10, 12 at home
Primaries to still open
Year 11 and Year 13 into school

Got to keep people working so the economy can keep ticking over.

@BiggerTallerFaster

I do t think I've ever seen a family out for a jolly in Sainsbury's, covid or not.

Oh I did on the 27th, children without masks too.

It's so selfish where numbers in the queue are concerned and makes it harder to distance with two adults spreading across either side of the aisle, grabbing things off both shelves for the trolley and letting the kids run around them.

my prediction is full lockdown, April style (Tier 5)

Schools closed and teaching from home until Feb half term

I think the only option will be to close schools, nothing else seems to be making much difference. The vaccine needs to be rolled out quicker.

I’m sure many of us don’t want our kids out of school or to be not able to go to work, it’s the last thing I want right now but I think we are running out of other options. People are not following the rules like they were, every day I’m hearing of people breaking them and I can see why in some ways, it’s ok for 100 kids to mix at school? It’s ok for teachers to be in contact with 100+ children but it’s not ok to visit a relative down the road? I can walk around a supermarket full of people for a hour but I can’t visit my mum for 10 minutes?

Even if we have a full lockdown like in the spring, are people going to stick to the rules?

I’m hoping tomorrow we will be told what’s happening with schools, at the moment I have one that has been told she has a extra week at home and I haven’t heard from the other child’s school at all, she has ASD and I need to prepare her for going back or not going back next week.

It's harder to distance but it doesn't massively bother me. Who knows what that family are dealing with? Mine are old enough to not want to go shopping with me but I dont begrudge some families going shopping together.

I recommend the Nectar scan thing in Sainsbury's you can avoid the queues that way

@ChickenyChick

my prediction is full lockdown, April style (Tier 5)

Schools closed and teaching from home until Feb half term

I really fucking hope you are wrong.

They need to make an announcement re: schools fast- people need to sort out childcare if they need to work.

We need to lock down like we did earlier in the year. Schools closed etc, all of it. It's shit and hard and miserable but it's the only way and I don't understand how so people can't, won't? see it.

@MrsMiaWallis

Look at Mumsnet practically drooling and salivating over lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, army patrolling the streets, ruined futures for their children, tier 5, schools closed for months and months.The massive forthcoming recession, the complete destruction of people's lives and businesses, the isolation, the suicides, the obesity crisis, the mental health crisis simply don't matter at all... only this race to the bottom where all that matters is complete and utter misery

It certainly seems like this on here. It's a bit nuts.

Actually I think this is bollocks. I am not 'salivating' at the thought of a proper lockdown. But i want it to happen for a short time because it works better than the stupid tier system. And because I want the numbers to go right down because i want my life back at some point. Do you think that being stuck in endless tier 3s and 4s for months as many of us have been is any better for mental health than lockdown? It's not, and it's also much less effective.

If he is due to address the nation on Thursday its more likely to focus on brexit given that all the new trade rules etc will come in to force the following day - the transition period will have ended and we are now on our own.

It's about time he acted and fast. It's clear these tiers aren't working. I for one will not be sending my child to school next week should that still be the "rules"... clearly the majority of the country are unable to stick to the rules so come down hard. I'm in a tier 4 area, and the amount of people who had massive Christmases etc was ridiculous. No one is taking it seriously anymore.

@MrsMiaWallis

It's harder to distance but it doesn't massively bother me. Who knows what that family are dealing with? Mine are old enough to not want to go shopping with me but I dont begrudge some families going shopping together.

I recommend the Nectar scan thing in Sainsbury's you can avoid the queues that way

"What that family are dealing with?" What possible awful scenario would precipitate them all having to go to a supermarket together???

You should begrudge it. We all should. The constant flouting of rules is why we're in this mess still and debating whether schools should shut again.

@ChickenyChick

my prediction is full lockdown, April style (Tier 5)

Schools closed and teaching from home until Feb half term

I really hope you are right.

He will want to stave off panic buying in the supermarkets as they smooth out the new border controls over the coming weeks.

@Gingerbreadfeeling there are people calling for road blocks, the army and at least one wants rationing. I'd like to think that they are joking but I believe a lot of them are genuine. Don't you remember the posts in March/April with posters ranting on about what's essential shopping? They seem to have stepped it up a level or 2 now.

Oxford vaccine was due to be reviewed 27th so I reckon it will be the vaccine is approved....a sort of sweetener to also announce tier 5 and school closures.

@MrsMiaWallis

It's harder to distance but it doesn't massively bother me. Who knows what that family are dealing with? Mine are old enough to not want to go shopping with me but I dont begrudge some families going shopping together.

I recommend the Nectar scan thing in Sainsbury's you can avoid the queues that way

I use the Smartshop app on my phone, it's brilliant isn't it. I've barely had to queue at the tills for months, can whizz through the self-serve with a big shop in a couple of minutes with everything already scanned and bagged. Low contact.

I meant the queue to get in the shop though. Five from one household shopping together instead of one means potentially four other households with just one adult shopping having to wait longer than they should.

My DCs would love to come with me but as my DH can look after them they stay at home while I'm food shopping, I'm not going to keep other people waiting in the queue longer than necessary.

The rest of the country going into Tier 4 (effectively lockdown), which is what should have happened on Boxing Day.

Secondaries to go back in February, possibly February half-term.

Possibly some other restrictions tightened, such as no Click & Collect for non-essential shops.

The definition of what constitutes an essential shop to be revised. Too many shops are open which (in my opinion) shouldn’t be.

I hope and pray primaries will open as normal for the sake of my daughter who has some additional needs and cannot learn effectively online . I feel reasonably confident that they will next week as planned, however if infection rates continue to rise they may close later in January/February.

Can anyone explain why they want a full lockdown like Feb/March...all I've seen is so numbers go right down....until lockdown is lifted and they go again.
Seems to me that the more tools we have (masks, social distancing, tiers, lockdowns, vaccines) the more restrictions are imposed.

On the basis of previous form, I expect that whatever decision they make will be made at least 2 weeks too late while they faff, will be announced in a press conference that starts at least half an hour late, the PM will look like he slept in his suit and is wearing a fright wig, and whatever is announced will turn out with the benefit of hindsight to have been a massive mistake and made contrary to the scientific advice.

Not that I'm cynical or anything.

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I won’t be able to work if my mum doesn’t help with childcare and I’m not the only healthcare professional in this situation. Nursery doesn’t cover night shifts. My OH is in the military and he equally can’t just not work due to his role. Nursery again won’t cover his hours- he is away weeks at a time. My mum is also a healthcare professional and has been vaccinated, a blanket ban on grandparents doing childcare assuming the are all old and vulnerable is ridiculous.

Totally agree with you, not everyone has a comfy office job with the pleasure of working from home. My boss expects me to go to work even though my job isn’t essential. My parents can’t watch them as they aren’t allowed, I haven’t got a space in school as it’s keyworkers only. So I’m buggered. Unpaid leave for me.