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Announcement tomorrow what are youre predictions?

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Amira19 · 29/12/2020 14:25

PM is due to make an announcement tomorrow what are youre predictions. I suspect larges area of the North moving from tier 3 to tier 4 and potentially tier 5 (closing schools) in London. Personally I think a full lockdown like March is required too many are mixing between the tiers and thats all those posting in social media.

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PrincessNutNuts · 29/12/2020 17:56

Not enough tomorrow.

A panicky rethink in about 10 days

DownstairsMixUp · 29/12/2020 17:57

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HmmSureJan · 29/12/2020 17:57

No one is "salivating" ffs! They want decisive, clear action where we all know what we are doing and why and full lockdown feels like that. My dsis is vulnerable and the relief she has felt at being able to have her children off school and therefore her family "safe" over the two weeks Christmas holiday has been overwhelming for her. I feel it too. Not having to constantly be on edge and afraid, just for a few weeks. It's fear and wanting some feeling of control, not "salivation" and revelling in all the drama,

SophieB100 · 29/12/2020 17:58

@Laughnaff
Sorry to read this, but if you are a healthcare professional, why are you not considered a keyworker?

notevenat20 · 29/12/2020 17:59

For schools, the plan to test children twice in the first week seems very good to me.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 29/12/2020 17:59

Lots of people are on edge and afraid due to the prospect of losing their job

DownstairsMixUp · 29/12/2020 18:00

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Gingerbreadfeeling · 29/12/2020 18:00

[quote PinkSparklyPussyCat]@Gingerbreadfeeling there are people calling for road blocks, the army and at least one wants rationing. I'd like to think that they are joking but I believe a lot of them are genuine. Don't you remember the posts in March/April with posters ranting on about what's essential shopping? They seem to have stepped it up a level or 2 now.[/quote]
Fair enough those views are ridiculous. But most people will be calling for a March level lockdown not because they hold those views but because it's the only thing that - sort of - works.

numbcheek · 29/12/2020 18:04

"Look at Mumsnet practically drooling and salivating over lockdown, lockdown, lockdown"

You are on mumsnet. Are you salivating?

This isn't a mumsnet thing it's a society thing. In every section of society across the whole world people have opinions on this. And as we are all different, so are those opinions.

And that's ok.

DownstairsMixUp · 29/12/2020 18:04

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Kljnmw3459 · 29/12/2020 18:06

I think it will be staggered start for exam years and primary years. That's what I've been hearing in the news.

kursaalflyer · 29/12/2020 18:06

My small town (tier 4) has nobody on the doors of shops like they did in the spring. Our small supermarket was bursting at the seams earlier, jostling at the shelves, groups of shoppers chatting etc. I didn't stay! The chemists have a sign on them, only two shoppers at a time but how do you know until you are inside? So people decide their own levels of the rules. A complete lockdown 2 weeks before Christmas would probably have helped the holiday figures but no point in retro thinking. I think a lockdown January would be good but if schools are still open it won't be effective.

Allispretty · 29/12/2020 18:08

@MrsMiaWallis

Look at Mumsnet practically drooling and salivating over lockdown, lockdown, lockdown, army patrolling the streets, ruined futures for their children, tier 5, schools closed for months and months.The massive forthcoming recession, the complete destruction of people's lives and businesses, the isolation, the suicides, the obesity crisis, the mental health crisis simply don't matter at all... only this race to the bottom where all that matters is complete and utter misery

It certainly seems like this on here. It's a bit nuts.

This...absolutely unbelievable What's worse is I feel like people on here get excited at the announcements and prospect of another lockdown it's so bizarre Confused

What I would like to know is if hospitals are at breaking point what the hell is happening with knightingales? They are still not being used constant media pushing they are about to use them it was the same last time...

Oblomov20 · 29/12/2020 18:12

If it goes to tier 5, what would change. We are already in 4, and hairdressers are closed. What's next? Costa? No coffee? Not that I care, I don't drink coffee. But I can't imagine what a higher tier would actually mean.

Agoodbriskwalk · 29/12/2020 18:12

For schools, the plan to test children twice in the first week seems very good to me.

The tests are 48% accurate and they also plan to use them to test close contacts of school cases instead of isolating them. It’s very dangerous.

WhipMaWhopMa · 29/12/2020 18:12

@Amira19

The problem is the tier system doesn't work people are doing what they hell they like. All over social media people are travelling from tier 3 to York for drinking,shopping pantomimes, another person went to the Yorkshire wildlife. Thats without the boxing day sales and seeing the Trafford Centre been completely full for atleast the last 3 days. NYE celebrations is only going to make things worse. I think the full country is going to need to be in lockdown for a reset so the rates of infections have a chance to drop and the vaccine can be put into place.
I live in the centre of York, and am not aware of any pantomimes going on at the moment.

Not many drinking venues doing a roaring trade, either. Town is pretty empty. It's fucking freezing, too.

PrincessNutNuts · 29/12/2020 18:12

@barbites

Can anyone explain why they want a full lockdown like Feb/March...all I've seen is so numbers go right down....until lockdown is lifted and they go again. Seems to me that the more tools we have (masks, social distancing, tiers, lockdowns, vaccines) the more restrictions are imposed.
Well, remember when 30,000 British people died in April?

I'm against letting that happen again.

And looking at the rapid trajectory of the graphs and listening to the doctors in hospitals and both SAGEs it could be about to happen again

Cases were about 15,000 a day three weeks ago. Today's detected cases was 53,000. And we know, because we lived through this before , that increased cases lead to increased hospitalisations and increased deaths.

My kids need their grandparents. My mum and dad have got decades in them yet. I don't want them to suffer in hospital for weeks and come out a shell of their former selves. And I don't want them to die. Especially not when they're this close to being vaccinated.

randomer · 29/12/2020 18:13

Nightingales are no longer there?

PrincessNutNuts · 29/12/2020 18:15

@Oblomov20

If it goes to tier 5, what would change. We are already in 4, and hairdressers are closed. What's next? Costa? No coffee? Not that I care, I don't drink coffee. But I can't imagine what a higher tier would actually mean.
Well, remember Lockdown?

That.

etopp · 29/12/2020 18:15

Fuck all this 'reset' business. It hasn't worked before; why is it going to work now?

We lock down again, or go into Stupid High Tiers which might as well be lockdown, the numbers go down, then they go back up.

How much longer is this going to go on? When will anyone who makes the decisions realise that there is more to life and death than sodding Covid?

I want my children to be at school, and I want my sector still to exist once everyone has stopped screaming about Covid. I want to work.

Fuck lockdowns, full stop.

Agoodbriskwalk · 29/12/2020 18:15

If they don’t shut primaries it’s all irrelevant. Both in terms of the spread and in terms of how seriously people will take it. We saw from the ‘lockdown’ in November that the daily mass gatherings of schools meant people being lax in the rest of their lives as ‘what’s the point with the kids in school’. It encourages kids mixing outside school, parents mixing and in this case would encourage parents to allow older children to mix since their siblings are mixing in their hundreds.

(Not to mention the massive and unjustifiable risk to teachers but we know the government doesn’t give a shit about that.)

Belladonna12 · 29/12/2020 18:21

@etopp

Fuck all this 'reset' business. It hasn't worked before; why is it going to work now?

We lock down again, or go into Stupid High Tiers which might as well be lockdown, the numbers go down, then they go back up.

How much longer is this going to go on? When will anyone who makes the decisions realise that there is more to life and death than sodding Covid?

I want my children to be at school, and I want my sector still to exist once everyone has stopped screaming about Covid. I want to work.

Fuck lockdowns, full stop.

They won't have to keep doing it because there is a vaccine now.
ineedaholidaynow · 29/12/2020 18:23

So for those who don't want lockdowns etc what do you suggest happens with hospitals etc which are already struggling?

etopp · 29/12/2020 18:24

Well, that's something. But the (other) vaccine was being touted as the great saviour of mankind about three weeks ago - since when it has barely merited a mention. Who are all the people who are being vaccinated, and why aren't we now hearing about them? If they are being vaccinated in their thousands, why are we still talking about lockdowns?

Sorry - not meaning to rant at you personally, @Belladonna12 I am just feeling completely despairing!

DBML · 29/12/2020 18:25

@etopp

I get that it’s maddening, but we can’t just “fuck lockdowns” and it’ll last as long as it lasts.

I usually spend 1/4 of my year abroad, living in the sunshine. Not this year. I more than anyone is missing my freedom.

But, I don’t worry about kids catching the virus and I am not all about saving 90 year olds (not that I’d choose death for them either, but they have enjoyed long lives, so I’m glad they’ve got that) but if we to fuck lockdowns the NHS as you know, would become so overwhelmed that we possibly wouldn’t have:

Access to emergency treatment
Routine treatments
Cancer treatments

Imagine if you had a terrible car accident and there were no ambulances available. Long waits at the hospital. No beds. No oxygen. No specialists.

A lockdown is not about Covid is it? It’s about keeping the NHS functioning to deal with us all, no matter what care we might need.