Daily stats, numbers, data thread 28 Dec

[PatriciaHolm]

UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#table
School statistics Attendance explore-education-[statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/attendance-in-education-and-early-years-settings-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak]]
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council district in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths [[public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
NI Dashboard app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9]]
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe Uk data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK read https_www.ecdc.europa.eu/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecdc.europa.eu%2Fen%2Fcases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=gbr&areas=fra&areas=esp&areas=ita&areas=deu&areas=swe&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&byDate=1&cumulative=1&logScale=1&per100K=1&values=deaths
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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@InterfectoremVulpes

Is there a general average of cases that are likely to end up with someone being hospitalised?

Wellllll....

We have some data that enables us to have an idea, but again it's only an idea.

PHE England publish admissions, broken down by various definitions. If we look at "the number of patients admitted in previous 24 hours for the first time with COVID-19 plus the number of patients diagnosed in hospital in previous 24 hours where the test was within 7 days of admission" vs positive tests, the average admission rate for the past month has been around 5%.

@Oaktree55 I've been following the data threads (after the 'worried about coronavirus threads from Jan) which have all been full of useful data and reasoned discussion.

@bigchocfrenzy got hounded off after schools posters took over with a dogmatic approach to posting which Was a huge shame. I implore you not to create a repeat of that.

Yes, we are all worried and can see what a shit show it is but until the Oxford vaccine passes or fails it is all conjecture.

Please just give it a rest.

@Wakeupin2022 I think they have an impossible decision. The data was a hash worse than yr 9 Biology but we’re in a crisis. Does the vaccine pass > 50% efficacy.....yes. Will that get U.K. out of crisis......no.

Is it MHRA job to get us out of crisis??? NO!!!’

That’s my point remember what their remit is!!!!

[quote Oaktree55]@InterfectoremVulpes it’s so frustrating how disjointed from reality most people are. This seems like a therapy thread from some of the posts 🤦🏽‍♀️[/quote]
Then leave us to it and start your own thread to discuss what you want to discuss 🤷‍♀️

@PropertyHelp people are missing my point. The MHRA’s job is to pass/fail a vaccine >50%. There job isn’t to choose the best vaccine to get us out if this mess!

How?! How can I possibly anticipate what will be released?!

It's very clear that you don't like the Oxford vaccine and perhaps your concerns will be entirely justified but at the moment there simply is not the data to back up what you are saying. You are making hypotheses and then assuming that the forthcoming data will support them and therefore acting as though those hypotheses have already been proved and so anyone who doesn't agree with you is in denial.

I don't know if we will look back with hindsight and wish we had plotted a difference course with respect to the vaccine. The reality is likely to be that either we make use of the Oxford vaccine in the next month or so (assuming it is approved) or we do very little in vaccine terms for a considerable period as we do not have sufficient stocks of any other vaccine available. That's is the reality as I see it.

@InterfectoremVulpes ?????? Huh you like the echo chamber???? If I wasn’t making any sense I’d be ignored. Comfortable lies or inconvenient truths??

@Sunshinegirl82 I’m not though compared to mRNA data

How about another thread to discuss the Oxford vaccine?

[quote Oaktree55]@PropertyHelp people are missing my point. The MHRA’s job is to pass/fail a vaccine >50%. There job isn’t to choose the best vaccine to get us out if this mess![/quote]
Well I think 50% is better than nothing but I'm an accountant so what do I know??

Who does choose, then? Who comes up with the vaccine strategy?

My point is, justifiably, we should have ordered more mRNA not relied on BRITISH Oxford.

@Sunshinegirl82

How?! How can I possibly anticipate what will be released?!

It's very clear that you don't like the Oxford vaccine and perhaps your concerns will be entirely justified but at the moment there simply is not the data to back up what you are saying. You are making hypotheses and then assuming that the forthcoming data will support them and therefore acting as though those hypotheses have already been proved and so anyone who doesn't agree with you is in denial.

I don't know if we will look back with hindsight and wish we had plotted a difference course with respect to the vaccine. The reality is likely to be that either we make use of the Oxford vaccine in the next month or so (assuming it is approved) or we do very little in vaccine terms for a considerable period as we do not have sufficient stocks of any other vaccine available. That's is the reality as I see it.

Spot on

Disengage. There is no point arguing with someone who just wants to tell you how right they are and how wrong you are. Mind you, a lot of the internet is like that.

@oaktree55 all you ever do is criticise the oxvax, many of your criticisms are factually incorrect. One has to wonder why you are such a one trick pony and why you keep trying to derail threads. I certainly won't be engaging with any more of your posts. It is getting very tedious.

@Sunshinegirl82

How?! How can I possibly anticipate what will be released?!

It's very clear that you don't like the Oxford vaccine and perhaps your concerns will be entirely justified but at the moment there simply is not the data to back up what you are saying. You are making hypotheses and then assuming that the forthcoming data will support them and therefore acting as though those hypotheses have already been proved and so anyone who doesn't agree with you is in denial.

I don't know if we will look back with hindsight and wish we had plotted a difference course with respect to the vaccine. The reality is likely to be that either we make use of the Oxford vaccine in the next month or so (assuming it is approved) or we do very little in vaccine terms for a considerable period as we do not have sufficient stocks of any other vaccine available. That's is the reality as I see it.

This sums it up

@PropertyHelp omg were supposedly one of the foremost scientific nations yet were relying on a poor relation vaccine. We shouldn’t have logistical issues, we’re a wealthy nation.

@MarshaBradyo it doesn’t sum it up read the evidence.

We should all be up in arms!!! What’s wrong with people?!?!

Right let's get back to the data...

Are the numbers from the last few days fully adjusted now,or is there more data to come?

[quote Oaktree55]@InterfectoremVulpes ?????? Huh you like the echo chamber???? If I wasn’t making any sense I’d be ignored. Comfortable lies or inconvenient truths??[/quote]
The only is echo is you banging on and on and on.

Oak honestly start a thread! You might have exactly the response you want

Jesus people have heads well and truly in sand!!! Let’s all discuss data shall we, data that can’t get changed eg how many dead but let’s all ignore the elephant in the room. Crikey!

The only response I’d like is people engaged in reality. I’m sorry if I’m frustrated but I’ve been in reality since last April when most are in denial and still are!

I have started a new thread on the Oxford vaccine here.

I would be really interested to read a critique of its efficacy.