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Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

480 replies

Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:46

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

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TheRaccoon · 19/12/2020 17:49

I’m pregnant with my first child, my DM’s first grandchild and we were meant to be driving down next week with the news to tell her in person. She’s now tier 4 so we’re considering just doing the drive down and back in a day (instead of staying over) but not sure yet.

If I’m honest I think the mismanagement of this will mean people break the rules and I think it’s a personal decision to make.

Therssalwaysachoice · 19/12/2020 17:49

I wouldn’t dream of continuing with my plans in tier 4. We can’t just leave the NHS to collapse

onlyreadingneverposting8 · 19/12/2020 17:53

Ffs - why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??? Aus and NZ can't believe how people are behaving over here (DH speaks to them daily as part of his job). They also can't believe how lax the government has been at enforcing rules and guidance. Do a zoom call and stay at home!

dappledsunshine · 19/12/2020 17:53

Our Xmas plans are unchanged, just dh, dc and my dm at home for Xmas day (dm lives close by and alone and is in our support bubble).

We've deliberately kept our plans low key by not planning on seeing other family members but if that hadn't been the case I would be cancelling in light of today's update.

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Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:55

From the very many threads on here where people do not agree with the government’s policy or this latest announcement I was expecting more variation in views!

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bumbleymummy · 19/12/2020 17:55

why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??

Because people have been doing that for months with the promise that ‘it will be over soon’ and it hasn’t worked?

ShivD · 19/12/2020 17:55

We’re cancelling, it’s shit but the more people who ignore the rule, the longer this shit will go on.

blue25 · 19/12/2020 17:58

We cancelled. Why do people think they can just do their own thing? So selfish.

Cornettoninja · 19/12/2020 17:59

@bumbleymummy

why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??

Because people have been doing that for months with the promise that ‘it will be over soon’ and it hasn’t worked?

I would happily put a lot of the blame on the government but this just isn’t true. There has never been promises of it all been over soon, but there have been statements that this is pretty much what they hoped wouldn’t happen but will if it needs to. They’ve failed massively ever making such firm promises for Christmas when it was never going to be certain they could keep them.

The only people saying anything about ‘soon’ is people amongst themselves picking a choosing what they want to hear.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 19/12/2020 18:01

No longer visiting my parents in London on Boxing Day.
My DM is heartbroken. The thought of this was keeping her going recently. She's freezing a turkey leg and we will have Christmas... Even if it's in summer. The next big event in our family is my DDs birthday. We had the family dinner on the 15th March (the day) this year. We hope to have it at the same time next year. Thinking positive thoughts.
(Poor girl never got her birthday party though... Again, fingers crossed for the coming March. It should have been the 21st March)

RunningFromInsanity · 19/12/2020 18:01

We cancelled. Is one Christmas alone really that bad?
We have the vaccine now. There is an end in sight if we follow the rules now.

SomewhereEast · 19/12/2020 18:04

@onlyreadingneverposting8
I wouldn't go ahead in Tier 4 BUT....people are social beings. We're just not designed to live like this. Staying apart for Christmas would be infinitely more sustainable if we hadn't had to stay-a-fucking part for everything for nine months while having every sliver of joy sucked out of our lives. And people in Aus and NZ can fuck right off frankly. They haven't lived through this, largely because they are island nations stuck out in the arse end of nowhere. No where else in the developed world is keeping any better with this endless social distancing bollocks to be honest

christinarossetti19 · 19/12/2020 18:05

We had no plans, but my neighbour who had planned to have her children/grandchild (childcare bubble) and her parents over is heartily relieved that the decision has been taken out of her hands.

Her 80+ year old dad is due his first dose of the vaccine this week. It really is such a short time, just a few short months, until things will be safer.

The title of Doris Lessing's book 'Winter in July' keeps going through my head. We need to aim for #ChristmasinJuly

LaceyBetty · 19/12/2020 18:07

Wow. Your post is sad to read. We've just cancelled everything. You need to do so as well. No one I know in Tier 4 is going ahead with their original plans. I've not been super anxious about anything Covid-related in the past, but we need this to end, so do your bit and cancel!!!

CatVsChristmasTree · 19/12/2020 18:07

First Christmas since MIL died, initially planned two households joining us for Christmas (FIL and BIL who live together, SIL and her family). FIL and BIL cancelled a week ago, when we saw cases were rising. Plan was then just to have SIL and her family in the morning for presents, like we always do.
Cancelled that now, will meet SIL outdoors to exchange gifts as I'll be working in her tier so she can meet me at my work (I live in tier 4).
Was going to drop other Christmas gifts off outdoors to my DSIS on the 23rd but cancelled that as she is tier 2 and I have no valid reason to be there.

LaceyBetty · 19/12/2020 18:08

@bumbleymummy

why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??

Because people have been doing that for months with the promise that ‘it will be over soon’ and it hasn’t worked?

There has been no such promise.
mummmy2017 · 19/12/2020 18:09

I've just watched my neighbour chuck 4 suitcases and his family into his car, he handed me a set of doorkeys, told me could I put the washing in the tumble dryer and take the dairy products, meat and veg out if the fridge as he is damed if he is not spending Xmas with his parents.
Will be gone for 2 weeks.

Piwlyfbicsly · 19/12/2020 18:09

I’m surprised how brave some people are to actually break the law. I’m fed up too but surrounded by people who don’t care and feel sad and silly. It feels like we are the only ones who suffer through financial loses, don’t see family and isolating in a flat without garden while others are just bending rules the way it suits them.

MondeoFan · 19/12/2020 18:09

No I won't be I'll stick to the rules because of my job too

Pinkiii · 19/12/2020 18:10

Yes this is hard but i’m so effin sick of everyone going on about Australia and NZ, they are a massive countries/continents and were able to close the borders to stop it. Even with our strict lockdown we can’t reduce numbers like them.

I just have to look on instagram to see someone new flying out everyday to dubai or somewhere else.

People underestimate how much an open border derailed this for us.

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 18:10

Undecided, mum lives a 10 min walk away & sibling a 15 min walk away. All normally go to mums. By the 25th we will have self isolated for 12 data so fairly low risk.

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 18:11

Oh & we have been very strict since March, no holidays, eat out twice, no play dates etc & that feels pointless.

OverTheRainbow88 · 19/12/2020 18:12

We didn’t make any plans as thought there would be a U turn

Spacemonkey2016 · 19/12/2020 18:14

It was only going to be my household and my Mum (she's recently been made our support bubble as have a baby under 1), but I've cancelled, as it wouldn't feel right to me.

Oysterbabe · 19/12/2020 18:14

We're in a T2 area and will go to inlaws Christmas day and leave boxing day. However a family from a T4 area are going to be there too. They packed up and fled to the inlaws this afternoon and will stay there until boxing day. I'm not delighted about meeting them and really disagree with what they've done but will just go along with it and keep the peace. On boxing day they are travelling up north to see the other set of parents too Hmm I think there will be a lot of people who ignore it and the new strain will spread across the country too.