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Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

480 replies

Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:46

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

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pickingdaisies · 19/12/2020 18:15

We've cancelled, tier 4 here.
TheRaccoon, you should not be visiting anyone in tier 4, the Christmas bubbles do not apply here.

BlueBlancmange · 19/12/2020 18:16

@bumbleymummy

why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??

Because people have been doing that for months with the promise that ‘it will be over soon’ and it hasn’t worked?

No one said it will be over soon. It is not that the measures have not worked. It is that everything would be far worse without the measures. It is obviously a really difficult situation, but just ignoring the restrictions is only going to have the effect of making the situation much worse. There are vaccines now, next year things should start to get better, but for now we should do what we can to limit the damage.
Tiletiletile1 · 19/12/2020 18:16

Won’t be continuing with my plans, which will disappoint family and DC.

This govt is fucking everything up. It’s not the taking it away, it’s the promising it in the first place.

How can we trust them to do ANYTHING now? Govt is so incompetent. And Brexit next.

SillyOldMummy · 19/12/2020 18:16

We are following the new rules. I wish I had known sooner though, as it is very disappointing to cancel Christmas

dinglethedragon · 19/12/2020 18:19

@onlyreadingneverposting8

Ffs - why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??? Aus and NZ can't believe how people are behaving over here (DH speaks to them daily as part of his job). They also can't believe how lax the government has been at enforcing rules and guidance. Do a zoom call and stay at home!
I know - I have family in Aus, a DS and a sibling, they can't believe how stupid people here are being. They had lockdown, it was strict, when new cases crop up they lock down again at state level. My sibling was telling me about the police checks on roads coming into their state.
Postmysecret · 19/12/2020 18:20

If it was a small family/close friendship group who are all low risk people and have agree to meet if well and agree they won’t see anyone who is in vulnerable category for 10-14 days then I would.

Cecily42 · 19/12/2020 18:23

We were going to be 3 households one day for Christmas. MIL and BIL now have to celebrate alone. Of course we will not break the rules. We are not “special” and the rules applies to everyone including us. I look forward to better future Christmas to come and will suck this one and indeed this year up.

Tippexy · 19/12/2020 18:23

Of course we are cancelling our plans now.

Wouldn’t dream of going ahead with them.

It’s gutting but we all have to play by the rules.

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 18:23

Oh & I didn't say we all wfh & my dc aren't back in until the 11th so can do 2 wks self isolating the other side.

Grooticle · 19/12/2020 18:24

We’ve cancelled our planned visitors from tier 4. The new strain seems to be much more easily transmissible. We don’t want to be responsible for it spreading. I know some people are really struggling with mental health and loneliness now - tbh I wouldn’t judge if they chose to ignore the new rules, but that makes it all the more important that those of us who can follow the rules do so.

steppingcarefully · 19/12/2020 18:26

@Oysterbabe

We're in a T2 area and will go to inlaws Christmas day and leave boxing day. However a family from a T4 area are going to be there too. They packed up and fled to the inlaws this afternoon and will stay there until boxing day. I'm not delighted about meeting them and really disagree with what they've done but will just go along with it and keep the peace. On boxing day they are travelling up north to see the other set of parents too Hmm I think there will be a lot of people who ignore it and the new strain will spread across the country too.
Don't go then if you're not delighted about meeting them and disagree with what they've done! I can't believe people are still going ahead with plans. Unless someone is going to be completely on their own Christmas day I don't understand why we can't just use a bit of common sense and stick to the rules. This is never going to end if people keep doing what they want and bending the rules to suit themselves. It's just selfish.
mymadworld · 19/12/2020 18:26

We cancelled my parents this morning and had intended to still have my brother and his family but have since cancelled. I have enough friends working frontline NHS to know the shit is really hitting the fan near us (tier 4 - one of the previously v.low rate areas) so feel it would be massively disrespecting to flout the rules plus piss poor example to our kids.
It's my absolute favourite day of the year and I'm seriously gutted but not worth the risk so we will overindulge on our own this year and celebrate next year (Easter HmmConfused?)

NotGenerationAlpha · 19/12/2020 18:26

I don’t think the Christmas bubble should have ever even be considered. It should have been just the same normal rule as the tiers. No one outside our household indoors and meet with one other adult outdoors. It’s going to change very soon with vaccine rollout. We are being stupid to ruin it at the last minute. High infection rates will only slow down the vaccination program (if we have enough vaccine dose).

LaceyBetty · 19/12/2020 18:26

@Oysterbabe

We're in a T2 area and will go to inlaws Christmas day and leave boxing day. However a family from a T4 area are going to be there too. They packed up and fled to the inlaws this afternoon and will stay there until boxing day. I'm not delighted about meeting them and really disagree with what they've done but will just go along with it and keep the peace. On boxing day they are travelling up north to see the other set of parents too Hmm I think there will be a lot of people who ignore it and the new strain will spread across the country too.
Such sad reading.
NotGenerationAlpha · 19/12/2020 18:27

I’m planning next year summer or autumn instead.

ketosavedmylife · 19/12/2020 18:27

@Missmidden

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

No.

Am in floods of tears and cannot even call mum to explain just now. May be tomorrow. Wales (where mum stays) to be closed and Scotland (where I am) closed. I cannot get there and back in one day Sad.

She will be alone, can't bear thinking about it.

User158340 · 19/12/2020 18:27

@onlyreadingneverposting8

Ffs - why can't people actually just stick to staying away from each other so we can all have a more normal life back sooner??? Aus and NZ can't believe how people are behaving over here (DH speaks to them daily as part of his job). They also can't believe how lax the government has been at enforcing rules and guidance. Do a zoom call and stay at home!
Disobedience is seeped into the souls of too many in this country.
LaceyBetty · 19/12/2020 18:27

@Oysterbabe but I completely understand your going along with it. I admit that I probably would too to keep the peace.

Greenandcabbagelooking · 19/12/2020 18:27

My plan is going ahead, because it was to stay at home, with or without my flatmates, and not carry germs home from a school which is now in Tier 4 to my parents who are in their seventies.

sleepwouldbenice · 19/12/2020 18:27

Ffs what does it actually take for people to bloody well stop putting themselves first

BellsaRinging · 19/12/2020 18:28

Yes, we were planning on going to family in a tier four area and will be staying at home (tier three) now. Actually has been easier to explain why-we were debating not going anyway (more bc of risk to other than ourselves) and it would have caused reductions. Now the decision is out of our hands.

DebbieFiderer · 19/12/2020 18:28

We've cancelled. I'm willing to go against guidance (the 'you can, but please don't' message from Wednesday) but not law

sleepwouldbenice · 19/12/2020 18:29

Very very sorry for those who have had their plans destroyed. This is another head fuck of a day

NotGenerationAlpha · 19/12/2020 18:29

Agree the UK flagrant disregard for rules has all our kiwi friends back home in disbelieve. (A few PP has mentioned it). DH and I are from NZ and we have never locked down compare to them in Auckland.

Timeforatincture · 19/12/2020 18:29

Very sad but sticking to the rules. Cancelled northern new year tour to see DS and DDIL ages ago - and it was going to incorporate a slap up feed for our 30th wedding anniversary.

Cancelled back up feed last week when we went into tier 3.

And now have had to cancel the London based daughters who were coming here for Christmas.

I was so looking forward to seeing them.

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