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Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

480 replies

Missmidden · 19/12/2020 17:46

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

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GlassLake · 19/12/2020 19:01

We've cancelled everything 😢

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 19:01

@Oysterbabe

We're in a T2 area and will go to inlaws Christmas day and leave boxing day. However a family from a T4 area are going to be there too. They packed up and fled to the inlaws this afternoon and will stay there until boxing day. I'm not delighted about meeting them and really disagree with what they've done but will just go along with it and keep the peace. On boxing day they are travelling up north to see the other set of parents too Hmm I think there will be a lot of people who ignore it and the new strain will spread across the country too.
And that includes you who could be one of the people spreading it! You could get infected by your tier 4 relatives and then take it back to tier 2. Why on Earth are you going? You can say no.
Sparkles715 · 19/12/2020 19:02

Cancelled and it is very sad. This was our last Christmas with my terminally ill parent. They will be with their spouse so not alone. Unfortunately we are divided by the Scottish border.

AcornAutumn · 19/12/2020 19:02

@Missmidden

From the very many threads on here where people do not agree with the government’s policy or this latest announcement I was expecting more variation in views!
I don’t agree with it at all

But for me, breaking the law and risking a fine is a big problem.

In the first lockdown I think it was a PCN and therefore would not lead to a criminal record? But I’m unsure if that still applies.

If you ignore the PCNs and enough people get them, the courts will likely reject them?

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 19:03

We won’t be seeing anyone over Xmas. We’re in tier 3 so could visit family on Xmas day but even before this latest rule change I thought the household mixing at Xmas was bonkers.

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 19:04

@Sparkles715

Cancelled and it is very sad. This was our last Christmas with my terminally ill parent. They will be with their spouse so not alone. Unfortunately we are divided by the Scottish border.
I’m so sorry. There are some truly heartbreaking individual circumstances.
Cyclebunny · 19/12/2020 19:04

I’m so sorry, Sparkles. 💐

smilingthroughgrittedteeth · 19/12/2020 19:04

Unchanged for us as was only ever going to be me, dp, children and my DM as we are her support bubble, she comes here everyday, so we had considered her moving in with us for the winter but she finds 3 young children exhaustion and likes to go home to rest.

We have worked hard to stay safe and werent going to blow it all just because its christmas, ive never agreed with the 5 day relaxing of rules so we werent planning on seeing any other family.

GlassLake · 19/12/2020 19:04

@flipapoo

Oh & I didn't say we all wfh & my dc aren't back in until the 11th so can do 2 wks self isolating the other side.
You're not special - follow the rules like everyone else!!
Barton10 · 19/12/2020 19:05

We have cancelled it is one day and those that don’t are totally selfish. Children will not die if they don’t see grandparents but the grandparents could if they catch it. Just stay at home follow guidelines and let’s hope the vaccine helps sort this mess out. Hopefully parents will get a grip on teenagers and keep them in too.

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 19:05

@GlassLake I never said I was going to break them did I!

FLOrenze · 19/12/2020 19:06

We are staying at home now. I could not live with myself If any of my family got COVID after Christmas. Nobody knows who could be a silent carrier.

GlassLake · 19/12/2020 19:06

[quote flipapoo]@GlassLake I never said I was going to break them did I! [/quote]
You said you were undecided

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 19:06

& if I see my mum I'm not breaking the rules as didn't know about support bubble. We have avoided seeing her inside since the dc went back to school

starrynight19 · 19/12/2020 19:06

Are people really considering not following the rules , especially in tier 4. Let’s hope you don’t need the nhs any time soon then.
@Vinosaurus I really have no words Sad

Calmandmeasured1 · 19/12/2020 19:06

@MandosHatHair

We were living for this Christmas break, if Boris had been more upfront with us we would have had time to prepare ourselves, not a few days before!!
They knew cases were going up in the South East and East but couldn't understand why. They investigated and, to be fair, it was stated in the update that they were only presented with this information yesterday. The Prime Minister didn't want to take this action but has acted very quickly to try and prevent the mutated virus was spreading.

I am heartened by most of the responses on here, where people will be changing plans and complying with the new rules. It will be difficult for many but necessary. Let's all do what we can to keep each other as safe as possible.

caringcarer · 19/12/2020 19:07

Just do the responsible thing and stick to Teams calls this Xmas. My FiL is dying. He has cancer in prostate, bones and now lungs. He won't see another Xmas but we will no longer get to go on 27th, sad as it is making DH. We have to think of Mil who is elderly too and the vaccine is so close for them now. Do as we are doing and meet up when they and we are vaccinated.

flipapoo · 19/12/2020 19:07

What rules am I breaking if I see my mum @GlassLake?

MG2020 · 19/12/2020 19:07

For the first time since I can recall, no xmas mixing up as we know what the negative impact of mixing households means.

We have the vaccine.

Have the parties, hundreds a day when this is more controlled in a few months stop being foolish, please.

Spodge · 19/12/2020 19:07

We can't. Were going from what was T3 to T2 but staying in a hotel rather than in relatives home under the previous Christmas relaxation rules. All down the pan now.

Serin · 19/12/2020 19:08

Cancelled all plans and so upset.
It was the one light at the end if a horrible dark tunnel for our family.
There are 5 of us in our house though so we are lucky yo have each other. Gutted for all those who have no one.

SoupDragon · 19/12/2020 19:08

I'm continuing with my plans.

They were to stay at home as a family of 4 😂

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 19/12/2020 19:09

@Oysterbabe

We're in a T2 area and will go to inlaws Christmas day and leave boxing day. However a family from a T4 area are going to be there too. They packed up and fled to the inlaws this afternoon and will stay there until boxing day. I'm not delighted about meeting them and really disagree with what they've done but will just go along with it and keep the peace. On boxing day they are travelling up north to see the other set of parents too Hmm I think there will be a lot of people who ignore it and the new strain will spread across the country too.
Aren’t you breaking the rules by staying overnight? Thought you could see each other for Christmas Day only.
RozHuntleysStump · 19/12/2020 19:09

We didn’t make any. Seemed pointless/foolish to do so. Therefore nothing has changed for us.

JacobReesMogadishu · 19/12/2020 19:11

@flipapoo

What rules am I breaking if I see my mum *@GlassLake*?
I think because she isn’t really your support bubble is she? You said you haven’t seen her since the kids went back to school. Support bubbles are meant to be for single households, vulnerable people or family providing childcare.
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