Quick poll: who intends to continue with Xmas plans in tier 4?

[Missmidden]

To help with my discussions with family who were due to come entirely within the rules as they were pre 4pm!

Genuinely in a total quandary as to what to say- all low risk people but it’s our decision as our house. If I thought that a big chunk of the affected population would “rebel” or that everyone else was towing the line that might help, so thanks in advance.

I’ve just cancelled a planned dog walk in the woods with two sets of friends who are now in tier 4 tomorrow (we are tier 2) and a trip to the skate park on Monday with other friends - also tier 4 (we are on the border of Surrey and Sussex so DS’ school has children from both tiers). Christmas was always just going to be me and DS as we can’t travel to see my parents in NI. Also had to cancel hosting my friend and her kids who were coming down from London on Boxing Day.

@Lindy2 I'm in tier 4 & have been self isolating since the 10th as has my mum & sibling. We were doing this anyway to lower our risk. I'm not saying I will break the rules but our risk of catching it specifically from each other on Christmas day is pretty low.

We were supposed to be traveling to stay with family for Xmas and Boxing Day but have cancelled- they're in the South and have gone into tier 4. One of them is a nurse and her hospital is almost full to capacity with loads of staff off sick or isolating ☹️

My DS was supposed to be coming home to Yorkshire from London on Wednesday. He's cancelled his train and I'm packing up his presents to send down to him

We’ve cancelled. ILs were due to come and tbh I wasn’t comfortable with it and were about to cancel, so this has just cemented what we were about to say to them anyway.

My mother has just called to say she is relieved. Felt a huge obligation not to be a kill joy ... whilst we were worried THEY would think we were being pathetic ... thank god it's been taken out of our hands.. a bit late but better now than never ..

Still not sure tbh

Yes we’re gutted, had plans to join with friends for the day but have cancelled after speaking to them (we’re in tier 4)

We're in Kent, family Lancs and Herts. Was always going to be just the four of us, given the way numbers were heading, so will remain unchanged.
Am weirdly glad my my has had to go into a nursing home this year as at least she'll be looked after and have company
Very glad I have bought and posted all the prezzies though!

[quote flipapoo]@steppingcarefully my mum is completely alone though. Does that make me less selfish? It we all self isolate before & after it's not high risk is it?

The rules cannot be nuanced but individually there will be different risks. Would I consider seeing my mum if I had to travel & was working out of the home just before Christmas if I lived in Tier 2? no. [/quote]
Sorry but did you read my post? I mentioned people who are on their own.

Disobedience is seeped into the souls of too many in this country.

If you look back, there was hardly any Lockdown rule breaking before Cummings and his eye test.

Planned to spend Christmas Day with my parents coming to us and was really looking forward to it, we have all been isolating since last week so we keep the risk to an absolute minimum - we are now in Tier 4 so it’s all off and I’m gutted. I’m opening the 🍷.

Exactly that.. follow the rules now and have grandparents alive next year.

tbf 1 of my dcs gps died this year & we couldn't even "celebrate" him. Their other gp lives in another country so its been months. It's my mum who is very upset as she doesn't want to be alone.

We'll be changing our plans in light of the new rules. We'll grumble about it though.

I wish people would stick to the fucking rules and stop being such narcissistic twats. It's one year. There are going to be thousands of people losing family and not all of them will be old if they are immunocompromised. There will be you g children losing parents.

*my Mum

@steppingcarefully do the rules allow that though?

We've cancelled. Not going to see each other on Christmas Day as it's a 3 hour drive at the best of times, which this won't be and it's hardly "local".

Absolutely not. We are now visiting my parents in law on Christmas Eve, as we won't be going anywhere after Christmas day, as originally planned. The more people flout the rules, the longer this will go on for. I'm in Scotland, and where I live is currently tier 1, but don't expect it to stay that way. Its all really sad, but what choice do we have?

Plans changed (Scotland) dps parents had planned to visit for a couple of days from England. Just dp and I for Christmas now. It’s upsetting but obviously necessary

I left London for a tier 2 area on Thursday as I was worried about travel restrictions coming in. I'm single and live alone so forming a support bubble not breaking the rules.

MIL hasn’t spoken to me for weeks because she’s angry that we aren’t visiting at Xmas and she blames me for stopping her precious son coming for dinner. She said I was being selfish because it was allowed. Well now it isn’t allowed and I’m thrilled that what I said about it being unsafe has been proved right. So we will definitely be staying at home. MIL of course is behaving ridiculously and has apparently taken a tantrum after today’s announcement and thrown the Christmas tree at her partner.

In London here and we were always going to have a quiet Christmas Day but had planned to see family on Boxing Day. Not any more! Looks like it’s going to be trips to the local park and playing with my son and his toys.. and then copious amounts of Netflix and Baileys in the evenings!

I'm not in tier 4. I'm still not having anyone round for Christmas. I love Christmas. But I don't think having a good Christmas is worth risking people dying for.

@DonkeyMcFluff I can't stop laughing at your MIL throwing the Christmas tree at her partner in a tantrum 🤣