Has anyone else lost the will to care?

[whatToDoHerre]

I have. I barely care about anything anymore. I don't know what we are fighting for - if this is life then is it worth living? We are not living, we are only existing at this point.

We could be in for months and months of restrictions and there's even talk of a third lockdown. Because the first two worked so well?

In a few short months a whole year of our lives will have been restricted.

If there is light at the end of this tunnel it's a very long tunnel, and I don't think we've travelled very far.

the longer it goes on the less compliant people are going to be

This 100%.
The initial lockdown was tough but we ploughed through it thinking it wouldn't be for long and it would be for the greater good. Fast forward to now we aren't in a much better situation than we was then, for what, a virus that has a 99.5% survival rate? When you say it like that it does make you question was this really all worth it? But on the other hand without restrictions would the survival rate been so high? Its one massive head fuck!
I cant be only one who thinks, I don't care anymore, this isn't life its just existing? Human beings are social creatures, we are doing everything opposite to what our natural instincts tell us to do, and somehow we are supposed to be ok and accepting of this

@Chimeraforce it’s happened. www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/introducing-baron-lebedev-of-siberia-in-the-russian-federation/17/12/

I'm done with it. I'm fed up with not being able to perform on stage, not seeing and hugging my friends, things being cancelled and rearranged then cancelled again, having to treat my fellow human beings like lepers. I hope this doesn't go on into 2021 I can't do another year.

So fed up with the whole thing. It’s just a massive mess that keeps dragging on and on and too many people are enjoying the drama of it all.

Comparing us to WW1 folks is like asking them to live our lives, mums working full time, heavy drinking in your youth, travelling, kids before marriage, being gay, the list goes on, it's not comparable 😡

I've been numb for about a month now.
The anger has largely burned out. I know I should feel angry about all the wasted jobs in hospitality and leisure etc, but there's a limit to how long you can sustain that for.

Oddly my social life has improved from the Nov lockdown. Friends that were excessively cautious through the summer and didn't have interest in meeting up, have now crept out of the woodwork and are more keen, so that has helped a little and I'm not feeling as crushed by lonliness as I was. Plus the DCs have completed a full term each at school and that's been respite for us from each other.

We're tier 3. I don't believe that we should have been dumped in it at the end of November, but hey ho, that's life down the shitter and that's the way it's going to stay until we see the daffodils and anything better than that is a bonus.

I might have another 39th birthday because this crapbag of a year doesn't justify totting up to 40, and I can't plan anything enjoyable worthy of a 40th.

There's two types of day in my existence, school day and not school day. "Christmas" is just going to be yet another lockdown with turkey, tinsel and £££ spent on the DCs, and none of the important bits like extended family or church.

I'm generally an optomist, but generally being in our own isolated piles of shit and not having any influence over this other than breaking petty rules like letting the DCs play in a playground back in June has meant my feelings have generally been stronger than usual until I burned out after a lot of random sobbing and stinking mood where I seriously wondered how I'd survive the winter without medical intervention. At least the numbness is a barrier from that.

This broke me yesterday.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/16/prof-chris-whitty-coronavirus-vaccines-dont-mean-end-social/

Whats the point? Whats it all for?

Totally lost the will to care yes and shall be crossing borders to go out to eat.

@RockPaperScissorsLizardSpock73

I've had enough also. I just feel we have all been lied to. It'll all be over by Christmas, kids don't spread it, things will go back to normal. Blah blah blah. I got very angry today we have been kept in tier 3 when other areas higher than us are tier 2. I don't even really go out to pubs but I'm so angry at the loss of businesses, the total lack of any real plan from the get go and they have had plenty of time to get their shit together. I'm just done with it now. I just want it to fuck off back to wherever it came from 😞

This is how i feel too , i can't find words to express how i feel about this government . There is no excuse that they had no template / protocol for a pandemic . I feel that we are on our own in this , so i shall do what is best for my family , i cannot put my trust in this lying shit shower . I live in an area where we also should go down a tier , but we haven't , how dare they dictate like this , i feel such despair for the mess some people will find themselves in .

I know how you feel. I think we're just so far down a sunk cost fallacy that there's no turning back and every day the cost of what we're doing rises (probably exponentially!) and the possible benefit falls. But because the cost is so high it can't have been for nothing so we just have to keep going, until everything is destroyed if that's what it takes.

The phrase "stay safe" makes me shudder now and in my darker moments I wonder if we'll reach the point where we're still doing "hands face space" and are banned from seeing our mum but no one can remember why.

The thread the other day where someone had locked their 13 year old up in their room for two weeks because she had sat near someone who had covid nearly tipped me over the edge.

Basically 66m people have lost a year of their life and many, particularly children and young people, have lost their future, to "save" a tiny tiny fraction of that, if indeed they have been saved.

CS Lewis said "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." I think it's apt.

That said, I find things worse when I read a lot of news or a lot of this sort of forum. I met up with a few friends in a park the other day and one of them didn't know what the tier system was and most of them had no idea about the Christmas bubble rules, which I found quite cheering.

Totally agree sick of it all. Completely confused about what I am and are not allowed to do.

So I’m not allowed anyone in my house right now but everyday I go to work in a SEN school, there’s no social distancing as our children don’t understand. I get hit, kicked, spat on, head butted most days. I try to wear a mask but it gets pulled off my face a lot. We were supposed to have enhance cleaning which is one cleaner who walks about with the same cloth cleaning the handles on the doors of two schools very very slowly. We are very short staffed so we don’t do bubbles, staff try their best to keep the classrooms as clean as possible but it’s difficult when you have children with fingers to their noses, nothing toys, slobbering etc. It’s just what they do, I love them and my job btw.

Half the population are ignoring the rules, my aunt told me last week that her grand-daughter brings her great-granddaughter down to see her weekly. They are in their 80s I didn’t know what to say to that when so many grandparents are yet to see their grand children. Posts on FB people travelling all over the country.

Adverts on TV telling people you can have up to 3 households for Christmas but just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Test and protect, one sibling can test positive and has to self isolate yet the other can go to school.

Tbh, I never found myself able to care about it as much as other people did. I had Covid in March. Now I know about 50-100 people (a lot of my students) who have had a positive test (I only had a positive antibody test), including a 99 year old, and none of them were very ill. The majority had no symptoms other than loss of taste and smell, and sometimes not even that. (I myself was fairly unwell, like flu unwell, but nowhere near needing treatment). I know that this can't be typical. But sometimes one's own sense data is hard to push past.

I know two people who've killed themselves this year. My mother died of cancer, partly because of delayed diagnosis and treatment. Others haven't suffered to the same degree, but they've still lost businesses, dreams, hopes. I just don't see the point. Assuredly there are people out there who are much more susceptible to the virus that the people I know -- but why? I don't get it. I don't live in some sports/ health / GOOP purdah of healthiness.

[quote Lostinacloud]@Pootle40 I see sense

This whole thing is utterly ridiculous, quarantining healthy people, ruining entire industries, banning people from seeing their own family, imprisoning elderly people in care homes, skewing figures, MP’s ignoring their own rules, masks, endless tv, radio and shopping centre announcements, previously happy people now depressed - totally had enough. The cure is massively worse than the illness and I’m fed up of Hancock et al telling us we are responsible for stopping a fucking microscopic virus who’s only purpose in life is to pass between hosts.[/quote]
Totally agree. The whole thing is completely ridiculous

The government must know they are so close to being absolutely fucked. If people just choose to ignore everything they will not be able to enforce it

Tbh, I never found myself able to care about it as much as other people did

Yes this too

Obviously I feel sorry for people who have lost loved ones but no more or less than anyone I don’t know who dies.

Why don’t the government provide a forecast of non covid deaths that relate to the effects of lockdown?
What is the evidence that’s we’re not killing more than saving?
I agree the cure is much worse than the virus

[quote kittensarecute]This broke me yesterday.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/16/prof-chris-whitty-coronavirus-vaccines-dont-mean-end-social/[/quote]
Chris Whitty is a wanker. The best thing you can do with him is pay him no attention.

Yep. Totally and utterly over the relentless drudgery, the constant stream of bad news,
Death tolls, dire predictions, tiers, distancing, masks, lockdowns... I don’t know what the solution is but surely to god this isn’t sustainable much longer

I'm pleased to have found this. Exactly the conversation that DH and I had this evening.

The only small plus that we have is that DS is still only small, so has no comprehension of how different things are. He still sees his grandparents because they made the decision after the first lockdown that they didn't want to miss out on him growing up.

I don't know how (if anyone truly is anymore . . .) anyone is still slavishly following the rules and foregoing social contact. I'm planning to see friends indoors on boxing day (tier 3) and I've seen another friend who lives alone multiple times over the past months because I'm worried about her.

As someone who lives in a supposedly very high risk area, I only know of 1 individual who has had this virus.

This broke me yesterday.

Kittens, did you read the article or just glance at the headline and start spiralling? The article just appears to be saying that all restrictions are not going to vanish overnight as soon as we start vaccinating.

I couldn't agree more op. I'm just wishing days away. I just don't care about anything, I've absolutely had enough. We've been in tier 3 for ages and it's so depressing.

Like a PP I can't be bothered with the rules. Especially as I've already had the virus. And people who don't live alone, really have no idea just how tough it is.

I just feel we have all been lied to. It'll all be over by Christmas, kids don't spread it, things will go back to normal. Blah blah blah.

No one in Govt or science has said this though.

Right from the start, and since, we've been repeatedly told how serious the situation is and that there would be no quick solutions. Was anyone listening?

Boris said life would be back to normal by Christmas.

Yeah, I was listening-"2 weeks to flatten the curve/stop the spread". That went well didnt it?Here we all are 10 months later.