A safe space for parents and teachers who want schools fully open.

[Billie18]

What it says. Children have already been impacted by prolonged school closures, individual isolation, inadequate teaching, isolation from peers and this will have impacted on their education, psychological and social development and mental and physical health. It is concerning for the majority of parents that there is a push for schools to close.

Please no derailment. This is an important issue that will affect a whole generation. There are numerous threads here about enforcing restrictions and limiting access to schools so please discuss concerns about these issues elsewhere.

The who have changed their minds more than their pants. They'll be reccomending something else next week.

Even if you could change my mind on screens and masks, which you can't, it means fuck all because the government aren't doing to impose this.

says more about you

that I'm Welsh? Cymru Am Byth

Do Not Insult Our National Flower

@herecomesthsun

says more about you

that I'm Welsh? Cymru Am Byth

Do Not Insult Our National Flower

You're not using it as your national flower, you're using it as a "fuck off" Being Welsh has got fuck all to do with it.

Such language.

My Nain would have been most offended.

I want to Reclaim The Daffodil.

It is a symbol of a land of poetry and music and dispossessed princes.

I am not [daffpdil]

I never heard of this idea till an hour or 2 ago and I think you are putting words onto my flower and I would like that to stop please

You can't take a word or a symbol out of context and insist it means what you want it to mean as language doesn't work like that.

[Daffodil]

@herecomesthsun

I am not [daffpdil]

I never heard of this idea till an hour or 2 ago and I think you are putting words onto my flower and I would like that to stop please

You can't take a word or a symbol out of context and insist it means what you want it to mean as language doesn't work like that.

[Daffodil]

I haven't taken it out of context. The context it has been used in is very clear. You asked how to use it in that context and proceeded to do so. The faux ignorance is tiring.

But I like s just as they are. And what they stand for is a proudly defiant nation with its own history and heritage. I don't think daffodils should be shunned.

My Welsh family would never have sworn but were very good at expressing their point of view in words, which is more satisfactory.

We could talk about the WHO recommendations and why you don't agree with them,if you like, instead?

@herecomesthsun

But I like s just as they are. And what they stand for is a proudly defiant nation with its own history and heritage. I don't think daffodils should be shunned.

My Welsh family would never have sworn but were very good at expressing their point of view in words, which is more satisfactory.

We could talk about the WHO recommendations and why you don't agree with them,if you like, instead?

Why are you pretending this is about being Welsh and you not trying to be clever?

Ive already said the who u turn as much as Boris does. That's why I wouldnt blindly accept what they say as a "must do"

I am not pretending to be Welsh.

I do respect the WHO and think they are right about making education safe.

What so you think about our death rate compared to say, Japan? Do you think we are handling this better than them?

Weird thread. Interesting how OP ignores anyone who doesn't agree with them but faens over those that do.
Also see irony of safe space and schools as another bubble sent home today from dds school.

@herecomesthsun

I am not pretending to be Welsh.

I do respect the WHO and think they are right about making education safe.

What so you think about our death rate compared to say, Japan? Do you think we are handling this better than them?

I didn't say you were pretending to be Welsh

I know nothing about Japan's death rates, nor do I care, especially. I just don't think putting children in plastic boxes and masks is a good thing.

I think this government has done many things wrong, but I don't think doing that to children is right. I just don't.

@Billie18 - if you want schools to stay open, I suggest you write to your MP to complain about the lack of funding going to schools - there comes a point in a school when so many staff are off sick or isolating that schools cannot remain open, and funnily enough, supply cover costs money, as does extra cleaning, etc, etc. Make schools safer working environments and you’ll get less disruption, pretty much the same as every other workplace. Don’t make them safer and eventually you may run out of the usual staff and any viable replacements. And I think you’ll find kids don’t like the inconsistency and disruption of having different people teaching them/babysitting their class each week, either, and that too is bad for their mental health, and the mental health of vulnerable children being forced into schools that have a covid absence problem and too few staff to attend to the mental health, physical health and education of our young people. So, actually treating schools as the vital resource they are would be sensible.

Anyway, it’s nice to see you recognise how important schools are - now campaign for better funding for schools.

I work in a primary school and want schools fully open and back to normal, at least after February half term. I want assemblies, trips, shared playgrounds and dining rooms, plays and extra curricular activities, just like we all do I suppose. But I’m in the fortunate position of being in a school that has had no cases and I have no vulnerabilities close to me. I have sympathy for the position many others in education have been put in.

It's really more than the "heath" of our children. It's about compassion and protecting other lives, even though most of them are old or vulnerable (may not be anyone like you know). My son's school has shut for the year 3/4 bubble on Monday and year 5/6 on Wednesday. I would have to keep him at home all 14 days not even going out to a park. Really worse than the lockdown time when he was still allowed to go outside for an exercise. But I told him that he's taking the little inconvenience so that if he carries any virus it wouldn't spread to vulnerable people, even indirectly. We are just doing our part.

I don't like face masks and I hated the home schooling. But I understand why it's in place. People are dying out there. Mental health is important and other health issues. But if we can't even sacrifice a little, can we really call ourselves a responsible party in the society where every single number on the daily tally was a loved one and left a family broken?

Schools have been doing their best.

@TrustTheGeneGenie aah the fact you don't care about death rates is very telling.

I really do care about people dying of covid. There you have it.

[quote herecomesthsun]@TrustTheGeneGenie aah the fact you don't care about death rates is very telling.

I really do care about people dying of covid. There you have it.[/quote]
I said I don't care about Japan's death rates. I didn't say I don't care about deaths, did I?

@TrustTheGeneGenie Ok so the UK has some of the worst death rates figures in the world. Other countries have done a lot better.

We could usefully learn from some of their practices and this would still be to our advantage.

I do hope this thread is here in the morning. I like catching up over a cup of tea first thing, and it’s shaping up nicely so far.

Why would it not be here?

I said I don't care about Japan's death rates. I didn't say I don't care about deaths, did I?

You may not care, but Japan’s death rate is under 2000. Yes, since the start of the outbreak. No, that’s not a typo.

Under 2000, with a population of 126,000,000.

@herecomesthsun

Why would it not be here?

There might be some godawful bunfight, or battle of the flowers, or name calling, or it might just implode through a barrage of irrelevancies, non-sequiturs, bitterness and resentment. But I hope not. I’m back at work this week after time off with a heart problem, so I’m hoping my learners will be kind enough to cover their faces and try to distance as much as possible. They’re generally pretty good.

as does extra cleaning

And if you think a positive case or two in a class means that room gets deep-cleaned, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. And the general standard of cleaning is not high.