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Secondary schools are fucked, BOFFINS ADMIT

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noblegiraffe · 13/11/2020 21:39

Latest ONS random sampling data shows that secondary school children in Y7-11 are now the age group with the highest infection rate in England, overtaking sixth form and university students.

In Wales "Schoolchildren are more likely to catch and spread coronavirus than previously thought, experts have warned... It was also discovered that while children were far more likely to be asymptomatic and not become seriously unwell, they were more likely to be the first positive case in any household."

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/schoolchildren-more-likely-catch-spread-19275959?fbclid=IwAR0kpoikv0D_nkwHx3lVyQX_cyDj6Ycy1d6gE3aRx6syxUKzFQsYzMDSqPw

English boffins are a bit slower on the uptake though
"SAGE’s report found that prevalence of Covid-19 in school-age children had “risen significantly” in the first wave, and that the rise in prevalence was “first visible around the time that schools reopened”.

However, it said that while this “may be indicative of a potential role for school opening, causation, including the extent to which transmission is occurring in schools, is unproven and difficult to establish”.

schoolsweek.co.uk/child-infection-rate-rise-began-when-schools-reopened-but-direct-link-unproven-says-sage/

It must indeed be difficult to establish whether there's transmission in a high risk environment where kids are packed in like sardines with no mitigation measures. A real head-scratcher. Especially if you spent the whole summer insisting that it would be fine because the kids are facing forward.

What do we want? Well, one of the major teaching unions has called on the government to:

  1. Demonstrate that they are following the scientific evidence and advice.
  2. Strengthen the guidance to schools and colleges on ensuring COVID-safe and COVID-secure working practices.
  3. Secure the updating and publication of health and safety risk assessments and equality impact assessments by school and college employers.
  4. Publish weekly data on positive cases of COVID-19 infections of school/college staff and pupils by local government area
  5. Ramp up inspection and enforcement measures in schools and colleges, including more comprehensive use of spot checks and visits by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE).
  6. Take swift action to protect public health in the event of an outbreak.
  7. Protect vulnerable teachers and support staff and pupils.
  8. Strengthen the guidance to insist on effective social distancing in schools/colleges.
  9. Establish a national plan for remote education/blended and distance learning.
10. Provide significant additional financial support for schools and colleges urgently to ensure the safety of staff and pupils, including extra funding for cleaning, personal protective equipment (PPE) and supply teachers

www.nasuwt.org.uk/article-listing/plan-to-keep-schools-safe-during-pandemic.html

Oh OP I knew this would be you yadayada...yeah that's why I chose the same thread title as before etc etc.

Why do we need another thread blah blah: it's because secondary school kids are now infected at the highest rates in the country. This has implications for lockdown. How effective will it be if the most infected subset of the population are mixing freely? And it's also the first hint from scientists that they might have been wrong about exactly how safe schools are. There's also a strong suggestion that kids are bringing the virus home from school which parents should be aware of.

It's also causing chaos in schools, but there's another thread about that.

Secondary schools are fucked, BOFFINS ADMIT
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CallmeAngelina · 15/11/2020 17:35

Oh, bloody hell. Girls' friendship issues! Shock
Give me naughty boys over that, any day!

Appuskidu · 15/11/2020 17:48

@cantkeepawayforever

Burps. Farts. Wasps. Projectile vomit. Friendship issues (especially those beloved of upper KS2 girls). NONE of this did I cover in my PGCE....
Definitely!

Girl friendship issues applies to KS1 as well-I’ve had multiple girls in tears in just one carpet session because another girl had struck them off her birthday list! I think the birthday in question was months away Grin.

cantkeepawayforever · 15/11/2020 17:50

Sorry, OP. We have gone on a small diversion from the main thread. Consider it a diversion into the more normal issues that make up a teacher's daily lot in non-pandemic times.

WhyNotMe40 · 15/11/2020 17:53

It is a bit relevant though as all these issues are much harder to deal with from 2m away from all students.

ChloeDecker · 15/11/2020 17:55

@cantkeepawayforever

I have an air flow vs wasps scenario.

Good ventilation = 8-10 wasps come in every day, causing havoc amongst the class.

Reduce ventilation = fewer wasps, less havoc but more virus....

I had a robin fly into my classroom back in September. Took me all of my lunch hour to safely get that bird out!

I too have issues with blinds, ventilation and computer screens. It’s very stressful!

MrsHamlet · 15/11/2020 18:36

I once had a cat come in the window. That was fun.

CallmeAngelina · 15/11/2020 18:39

Cat?
Pah! We had a cat who seemed to adopt us. Must have had a death-wish, as he was quite happy to wander the playgrounds amongst hundred of kids.
He would often wander in through an open door, or jump in if the windows were open. He curled up on my chair once, and I didn't notice and sat on him!

MrsHamlet · 15/11/2020 18:42

😂 This one spends a lot of time in the sixth form common room these days.
The dive bombing seagull is less welcome.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 15/11/2020 18:43

My school has a public right of way through it.

We’ve had dogs wandering around.

fuckweasel · 15/11/2020 18:59

We had a bat in the science department once.That was fun. Thankfully a former colleague was the local 'Batman'.

canigooutyet · 15/11/2020 19:11

These are brilliant. 😂
Forgot all about the yearly wasp invasions.

WhyNotMe40 · 15/11/2020 19:21

The seagulls were actually attacking the year 8s for their chips on Friday. The girls screamed, dropped their chips, and ran away.
I run over shouting, "don't feed them for goodness sakes!"
Aggrieved girls lament their lost chips and try to tell me that it wasn't on purpose.
Full of sympathy (inwardly laughing), I tell them to maybe don't wave the chips around next time, or eat them quicker!
Seriously though, the seagulls bare becoming a real problem. And we are nowhere near the coast!

Hercwasonaroll · 15/11/2020 19:26

😂 Excellent. Our windows don't open so the most exciting thing we get is a rat across the playground or an earwig/beetle that's crawled in.

TheHoneyBadger · 15/11/2020 19:32

We had a man with hawks come in for a while to see off the seagulls. They soon came back.

sherryperry · 15/11/2020 19:42

I have a rook tap at the fire door every morning! I have to keep it closed in case it comes in!

Another issue I have is sound. My classroom is next to a playground and due to staggered playtimes I cannot hear myself think for about two hours every morning. The open windows don't help!!

EndoplasmicReticulum · 15/11/2020 19:42

The snake got out once. That was a fun lesson.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 15/11/2020 19:44

Oyears ago one of my colleagues wrote a letter to a oarent about her ds’s severe flatulence as she was so pissed off with it.😂

Mother was appalled. Said child stopped farting in lesson.

TheSunIsStillShining · 15/11/2020 19:51

Totally off topic question
I want to start a chit-chat thread as I have no friends in this country and want to boast/moan whatever. Which section is the best for this? Can't figure out...

OverTheRainbow88 · 15/11/2020 20:06

Does anyone watch educating greater Manchester?

The latest episode they brought in service animals
and it was amazing to see how a student with ADHD could sit calmly throughout a whole lesson while stroking a rabbit...

Sorry all that animal talk reminded me!

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 15/11/2020 20:07

I could sit through a whole lesson stroking a rabbit too!

TheSunIsStillShining · 15/11/2020 20:13

As long as teachers ask kids about how they feel about said animal it's fine. I am terribly afraid of dogs so imagine when a teacher brought her dog in without a leash. (I jumped out the window - ground floor and got a suspension for leaving the school unauthorized). Or colleague doing the same as he didn't have the heart to leave the frekking dog at home. I had to leave. He planned on doing it every day. Next day I phoned in and asked the CEO if he needed my services on the current project or not. Thankfully he did, dog never came back.
Or workplace interview where they forgot to tell me that they had 5! dogs in the office. I admit I screamed when 2 small dogs ran out whilst standing in front of the receptionist. Sprinted out with a loud "fuck" leaving my mouth. Not my finest moment

Danglingmod · 15/11/2020 20:21

Yeah, both me and my ds would have gone absolutely mental if anyone had brought a dog into school. Really unfair on kids with anxieties around animals.

That Head is just bonkers anyway. The stupid stunt with fake cutting a kid's headphones. He's supposed to be a Headteacher not a circus ringmaster.

WhyNotMe40 · 15/11/2020 20:26

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince

Oyears ago one of my colleagues wrote a letter to a oarent about her ds’s severe flatulence as she was so pissed off with it.😂

Mother was appalled. Said child stopped farting in lesson.

Maybe I should try this? Or offer charcoal biscuits? Grin
WhyNotMe40 · 15/11/2020 20:27

@TheSunIsStillShining

Totally off topic question I want to start a chit-chat thread as I have no friends in this country and want to boast/moan whatever. Which section is the best for this? Can't figure out...
There is the Chat board?
OverTheRainbow88 · 15/11/2020 20:28

Yes hopefully they checked no kids had major dog anxieties. But the smaller animals seemed to be really beneficial, especially to that boy with the rabbit and the girl who had anxiety since her dad had cancer.

I quite like the head, he seems very involved In the day to day running of the school- I think he fiddled the attendance stats and illegally excluded kids though and was given the boot though!