Worried that the military and NHS are on standby to deliver vaccines

[BurningRose]

Just heard this on the BBC news at 6.Does this mean the military will be injecting people? Will it be mandatory for certain groups? This is rather worrying.

Yeah! Another lot of good news! Finally the army is going to be put to a good use! And the vaccine is being rolled!
Nothing to worry about here

This makes me laugh. Are people seriously worrying about their injection not being given by an NHS doctor or nurse?
Please do not believe the news. I am a GP and we have been asked to do this, but we DO NOT have to. And given that we are all drowning in work at the moment, I wouldn’t hold your breath for his promised vaccine programme. We physically can’t offer vaccine appointments 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and still provide all routine GP services. It’s impossible.

If the army have been drafted in then that’s probably the only way it’ll get done.
Oh and incidentally, we haven’t formally even been asked to do it yet. The government has announced it’ll happen but they are lying. Or at least being extremely optimistic.

@BurningRose

My comment is not as odd as it seems. Some legislation was passed recently allowing non medical professionals to administer vaccines of needed.

Paramedics are medical professionals. I’m not sure why you would think otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I kind of understand where you're coming from op.
However I tested positive for covid..then a couple of months later I got chosen for the antibody test and it came back negative.

some of the army are medically trained you know
Its easy to learn how to do its one of the first things you use to learn as a student nurse - I should imagine the vax comes "capsule" form single use (if you know what I mean) so its only a question of being taught where to put it in the arm - they use to practice it on oranges :)

This reminds me of the announcement that teachers would provide a full curriculum of summer holiday lessons, before anyone actually asked the teachers. Needless to say it didn’t happen.

@BurningRose

Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity.

I worry about creeping authoritarianism though.

Not necessarily - not all people who have had Covid developed antibodies.

Are you the same poster who said the army were going to be securing schoolchildren the other day OP?

My flu jab was done by pharmacist!

@Sheogorath

Yeah, they're going to be sticking needles in machine guns and firing them at people.

Oh I do hope so.

[quote WithTheJonses]@BurningRose hi op

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No, please don't do that. You don't need more stuff to make you anxious.

Yesterday I had my flu jab. I work for the NHS, and for obvious reasons we are really hitting the flu immunisations this year. Additional people have been drafted and trained.

Mine was given to me by a psychologist who had done the training. It was fine.

What’s wrong with the military injecting people. They’ll be trained.
Just because you’ve had Covid it doesn’t necessarily mean you have immunity and can’t catch it again.

@Witchend

I heard they were getting professional darts players in to do the injections while socially distanced.

🤣

😂😂😂

Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity

Err, that would be a nope

@sadeyedladyofthelowlands63

I broke my ankle and my husband had to inject my stomach daily to avoid clots. He wasn’t even shown how to do it.

I was "trained" by a nurse to give my partner similar injections. It took approximately 30 seconds. It really isn't rocket science OP.

I taught DP how to do mine - 45 seconds, including repeating myself and making the cat get off my lap. Once you know how to identify the injection site, check it's all in one piece/been stored correctly, how to 'fire it' and how to chuck it in the sharps bin, you're sorted. It takes 10 seconds for 150ml to be injected with my meds, so probably 30 seconds in all for two of the things - I'd expect a Covid vaccine to be im and considerably less in volume/more like a flu vaccination, which takes literally 2 seconds to bung in a muscle.

It'll be a piece of piss to administer.

@mumwon

some of the army are medically trained you know Its easy to learn how to do its one of the first things you use to learn as a student nurse - I should imagine the vax comes "capsule" form single use (if you know what I mean) so its only a question of being taught where to put it in the arm - they use to practice it on oranges :)

Apparently it does need to be drawn up the old-fashioned way and can't come in a pre-loaded syringe, which does make it very very very slightly more complex, but still nothing that your averagely competent adult couldn't learn to do in about an hour.

@muddledmidget

The vaccine won't be mandatory, but the military are the best resource we have to deliver a vaccination programme of this size, in terms of the logistics of setting things up, transporting the vaccine to the vaccination centres (particularly if it's the Pfizer vaccine that has to be kept frozen) and have a large number of medically trained personnel to assist with the vaccinations.

Personally I'd rather have them than Serco involved in the vaccination programme

And for once the government won’t be squandering £billions on private companies that get contracts despite repeatedly failing to deliver.

OP you are worried about nothing....the military have some of the most highly trained doctors and nurses and specialists that you could find anywhere on this planet.and the reason I know this for a fact is I served in the army and I had a baby,throughout my maternity and gynalogical problems later on,seperateissues totally I recieved world class care and attention.They dont draft the NHS in on the battlefields you know,the wounded are treated by their own and back home their families are also treated and cared for by serving members....I owe them a huge debt of thanks for my care and that of my child..having them on board is a wonderful thing in my opinion.

Machine gun vaccines sounds ultra-efficient. Bam bam bam, and that's the entire street done.

Also I don't remotely share OP's concerns, but if shouting "Are you crazy!!???" at people actually changed their minds, we Remainers would have Brexit reversed, Ode To Joy as the UK national anthem and probably Guy Verhofstadt as Prime Minister by now.

You realize that military personnel are trained in more than basic first aid, they are trained to deal with gun shot wounds and injuries from explosions !

Im sure they can manage to inject someone

I wonder if OP realises that a lot of staff at testing centres aren’t medical professionals.

@Mintychoc1 is this intramuscular? Because anyone can do that.
Intravenous? Never had a vaccine in this fashion, but this one is different. Any nurse can do that too?
They do have plenty of very good doctors and nurses in the army.

@muddledmidget

The vaccine won't be mandatory, but the military are the best resource we have to deliver a vaccination programme of this size, in terms of the logistics of setting things up, transporting the vaccine to the vaccination centres (particularly if it's the Pfizer vaccine that has to be kept frozen) and have a large number of medically trained personnel to assist with the vaccinations.

Personally I'd rather have them than Serco involved in the vaccination programme

Absolutely this

@BurningRose

Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity.

I worry about creeping authoritarianism though.

Do you know you have immunity? How long does your immunity last for?

I am 5 weeks in from having Covid and every medic I have spoken to, as I am CV and having some complications so speak to them at elast 1-2 times a week since testing positive, have said that immunity can't be guaranteed and even if I do have some they dont know how long for.

Therefore I still have to isolate if I come in contact with a case, I am still classed as CV (more so now due to the complication), I still have to be very careful.