Worried that the military and NHS are on standby to deliver vaccines

[BurningRose]

Just heard this on the BBC news at 6.Does this mean the military will be injecting people? Will it be mandatory for certain groups? This is rather worrying.

It would be illegal for an untrained non-medical person to deliver vaccines.

*I meant to inject vaccines, not deliver.

[quote MushMonster]@Mintychoc1 is this intramuscular? Because anyone can do that.
Intravenous? Never had a vaccine in this fashion, but this one is different. Any nurse can do that too?
They do have plenty of very good doctors and nurses in the army.[/quote]
Absolutely. The army are the perfect people to do it. Or any other military. Just not civilian GPs, because we don’t have any capacity at the moment.
I presume it’s intramuscular.

I am more concerned that Matt Hancock is still Health Secretary.

@Sheogorath

Yeah, they're going to be sticking needles in machine guns and firing them at people.

spat my tea out hahah!

By the way you don't need to show antibodies to have an immune response. That is just one aspect of immunity.

Why is it a nope @AnyFucker? The vaccine is simulating the real disease after all?

@BurningRose

Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity.

I worry about creeping authoritarianism though.

Not forever you won’t.

And you know the military have their own medical staff including doctors, nurses , phlebotomists, HCPs etc.

@Fieldofyellowflowers

It would be illegal for an untrained non-medical person to deliver vaccines.

It really, really isn't.

Anyone thinking this ‘miracle’ vaccine is actually going to work needs to wake up! It’s most Likely redundant now since the Danish Mink mutation anyway.

I give myself an injection every week as part of my arthritis medication. Was shown quickly once where it goes and that was it.

I used to test a child in my class daily as part of his diabetes, and used to inject him with insulin a number of times a week. Again my training was a quick two minute watch me do it today, you do it from then on.

I work in care. If they make it mandatory, I will be resigning.

@Cyw2018

No it means the military are awesome at logistics and their soldiers are capable of adapting to and fulfilling new roles readily.

This. Very much this Testing worked well when they set it up and fell apart after it was handed over Liverpool was shambolic on it's mass testing and the army came in and tidied it up. The army is used to fulfilling lots of roles beyond arm to arm combat. I know they'd never want more than a poppy purchased but they have really helped with this pandemic and it has barely been acknowledged people focus on what's gone wrong and they tend not to be involved in that bit

The Army have medics and are employed by the government so it makes sense to use them. I'm sure it'll be done smoothly and efficiently with the army on board.
By the time it gets round to me I'm bound to get the practice nurse i bet.
Don't worry though op. I'm sure all the efforts will be worth it so we can try to get back to normal next year ( I hope)
It dues make sense to use them.

The military are trained to offer logistical support, but they are not on standby to force people to get the vaccination, no. Actually only a fairly small part of what the army do overall is go to war.

@Sheogorath

Yeah, they're going to be sticking needles in machine guns and firing them at people.

@Sheogorath

I’d go with canons myself, more vintage

OP, I too have heard non HCP's will be administering the vaccine. I like you have my reservations and I'm not highly anxious either!

Apparently it does need to be drawn up the old-fashioned way and can't come in a pre-loaded syringe, which does make it very very very slightly more complex, but still nothing that your averagely competent adult couldn't learn to do in about an hour

I really don't think your averagely competent adult would take an hour to learn that. Maybe five minutes, ten at a pinch if they wanted to go really, really slowly.

@Burningrose - if you had read the articles about the proposed vaccine, you will have seen that there is no 'live' virus in the shot; it contains a protein which targets one of the 'spikes' in the virus and this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies. If you don't want your allocated jab, I will have it and millions more. You have to have faith in doctors at least, whatever you think of the Government!

It just means the military can organise it better than this government.

A- Why is it worrying?

B - Having Covid doesn't necessarily mean you are immune. I know someone who tested positive in March and tested negative for antibodies last week.

I'd much rather have the British military involved than Serco / ATOS.

It won't be mandatory.
But...
It might be harder to travel without it and possibly will restrict options in the UK too (can't see what as yet but 'life under Covid' has been weird)

@Sheogorath

Yeah, they're going to be sticking needles in machine guns and firing them at people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Also (no offense to them) but it's not going to be infantrymen who have watched one YouTube on how to do a jab that will be doing them, if they get involved in it at all from a medical pov. The military are paid by the government, they have a wealth of skilled or at the minimum trained personnel who are well versed in providing logistical support amongst other things. Would people rather we hand over another huge contract to some random supplier? They have also had some stuff abroad cancelled and training and exercises here, so makes sense to utilise them

It would be illegal for an untrained non-medical person to inject vaccines

Can you cite the law for that?

Because I think there is no such law, and any person can do this. And indeed do - lay people inject their DC, people inject themselves, pharmacists both dispense and administer

Where are you getting your info OP? It has been proven several times in several countries that people have had it twice. Your "immunity" - if you ever had enough antibodies in the first place - may have worn off by now.
Rock on with you plans though.