Worried that the military and NHS are on standby to deliver vaccines

[BurningRose]

Just heard this on the BBC news at 6.Does this mean the military will be injecting people? Will it be mandatory for certain groups? This is rather worrying.

The armed forces are very good at logistics and have very capable medics.
The armed forces are trained to support civilian authorities in loads of things, floods, security (olympics), counter terrorism... they step in to help.
No you won't be pinned down by a member of the British army. 😂
I was in the armed forces and trust me, it's pretty boring, there's no hidden agenda.

@BurningRose

And your immunity will wane in a few months, it doesn't last.

No more than a vaccine immunity. People will need a covid 19 vaccine boosters too every year. Its honestly not a silver bullet.

Shit, do werewolves carry the mutated virus now?

*The military are being involved in the roll out of the vaccination programme because it makes sense to make use of their skills in logistics, and of their personnel. I am 100% sure it is nothing to do with making the vaccination compulsory.

I hope this sets your mind at rest.*

This does somewhat thank you.

Some legislation was passed recently allowing non medical professionals to administer vaccines of needed

Did they? I didn't think there was any need as it's already both legal, and pretty widespread

I dont say this often or lightly OP but...

You really have no fucking idea what your talking about.

@sadeyedladyofthelowlands63

I broke my ankle and my husband had to inject my stomach daily to avoid clots. He wasn’t even shown how to do it.

I was "trained" by a nurse to give my partner similar injections. It took approximately 30 seconds. It really isn't rocket science OP.

To be fair, my husband is ex military though, maybe he just knew,,😂

@BurningRose hi op

I think the same as you. Look up Ellie Gray Official on Instagram very insightful

This is why they had the bloody podium chat yesterday. To try and head off all the weird and wonderful misinformation that was bound to escape once the Pfizer news was published.

Some legislation was passed recently allowing non medical professionals to administer vaccines if needed.

It is a MASSIVE leap from this, to thinking that soldiers will be administering them at gunpoint, though!

I don't trust the government either, but if there is one thing that the Army is good at, it's logistics - getting a lot of something from one place to another, effectively. If there is one thing that the NHS is bad at... well, PPE anyone?

The idea that the vaccine is going to be mandatory and administered by force is not a rational one, hence comments about anxiety... Besides anything it won't be necessary, I haven't spoken to anyone today who doesn't want it...

@BurningRose

I wonder if there may be situations where you will need to prove you were vaccinated in order to do particular activities? This is one aspect of creeping authoritarianism. But let's us all trust a needle to solve all our problems 🙄

If it solves it without having to get the disease/have fewer complications/not spend weeks wondering if you're going die of this ton weight on your chest, yeah, thank fuck for the needles.

I rely on needles already. Means that medication doesn't have to go the inefficient way via the gut and liver, quick uptake in the body, quicker response and minimises both dosage and side effects. Quick, easy to administer, single use, brilliant, wonderful, efficient little things.

How hard do people actually think giving an injection actually is? There are millions of non medical people who have been trained to give injections, diabetics, IVF, cancer and goodness only knows what else people end having to learn how to do it.

Exaclty, I’m a type one diabetic, I have been independently injecting since the age of seven. When I broke my leg I had to inject myself for six weeks to reduce my chances of developing a DVT. My heparin training went like this “just pinch a bit of flab and inject that”.

No it means the military are awesome at logistics and their soldiers are capable of adapting to and fulfilling new roles readily.
This. Which is why they are also called in to deal with floods, burst dams and other catastrophes.

OP I think I misunderstood your concern

I don’t think it’s the problem the military giving a vaccine

I think there’s a whole bunch of other problems so I misunderstood you, sorry.

I wonder if OP is a chum of David Icke.

I'd let a soldier vaccinate me. I had the pharmacist in Boots give me the HPV vaccine a couple of weeks ago it's not surgery.

Jesus Christ. Only on MN and if I hear the words 'silver bullet' I'm going to bloody combust.

We could get a cure for cancer and someone on MN would criticise it. I bloody despair.

What's your solution then, OP? Shall we spend another £12 billion on distribution by private firms with no experience of logistics?

Your concerns would probably be taken a bit more seriously if you'd not mentioned your 'natural immunity', btw...

Look up anti-vaxx bullshit peddler Ellie Gray Official on Instagram very "insightful"

Fixed it for you.

@BurningRose

Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity.

I worry about creeping authoritarianism though.

Not necessary

WithTheJonses conspiracy peddling nonsense

Our local hospital has a military centre for defence medicine as part of it. Military medics treat both military and civilian patients according to need and it's no big deal. The variety of uniforms is quite colourful too(!)
So I wouldn't worry about there being enough competent people being able to stick a needle in an arm.

@combatbarbie

*Ps I had a positive covid test a few months ago so I won't need a vaccine. I now have natural immunity.

I worry about creeping authoritarianism though.*

I thought they were seeing more cases now of people who had it first time round and now again, only 2nd time round there are more complications as in scarring of lungs from the first case.

IIRC there have only been a handful of confirmed reinfections in the whole world, and there has been one (poss over-publicised) case of someone being more ill the second time round. Generally second timers are asymptomatic and picked up by mass screening ie the first confirmed reinfection was a guy in south-east Asis only caught the second time round because he was tested at an airport pre-travel. And there really haven't been many reinfections found at all. Not to say that "I had it once so am now totally immune forever" is right either...

I injected myself with drugs when I had ivf, despite my only medical training being a first aid course I did when I was 12.
Even junkies manage to inject themselves. It's not hard.

Given the delays in getting PPE to the right places and the delays in Track and Trace I for one am very glad to see the military involved. They have fantastic expertise in logistics and I would rather see them involved than private companies with no proven experience or expertise.

@simonJT

My heparin training went like this “just pinch a bit of flab and inject that”.

GRAB THE FLAB AND JAB.

That should be the motto. Its catchy