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To think the govt has no right to tell me who I'm allowed to have in my home?

459 replies

HumanFemale1 · 08/11/2020 16:16

Anyone else feels the same? I just don't think this is OK. Govt making the rules of who I am allowed to have in my home or how many people I'm allowed to have in...

Especially when it's to keep a virus from spreading when the average death of a virus is higher than the life expectancy. But for any reason really. If the govt was making this rule for any other reason people would be horiffied.

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FourEyesGood · 08/11/2020 16:20

Are you one of those people who thinks Covid is all a hoax?

GlowingOrb · 08/11/2020 16:20

So are you hoping for a thread of people telling you that your selfish or do you really want to discuss the legality of government mandates?

Createauser · 08/11/2020 16:21

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agradecida · 08/11/2020 16:23

Ffs

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 08/11/2020 16:23

Are you new?

If not I'm sure you can find the Corona Virus Topic & join in one of the eleventy billion threads there, instead of acting like you've had an original thought.

ScribblingPixie · 08/11/2020 16:24

It's pretty shocking, I agree, OP. And if you live in Scotland you have the prospect of the government being able to prosecute you for conversations you have in your own home, too. Quite a road we've travelled in a year - and will we be able to retrace our steps?

GeorgiaMcGraw · 08/11/2020 16:26

It's a fair concern and discussion to have. What rights do we have an individuals, what powers should the state have? If we allow these intrusions, what others will we allow (e.g. policing speech in our own homes)? And is this truly a necessary emergency measure that will be temporary - I can't remember who said it but it reminds me of tge quote "There is nothing so permanent as a temporary Government programme."

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 08/11/2020 16:26

Yes, fuck the old people, I mean I'm sure when I'm 75 I wont care about any potential years I've got left and I'll happily sacrifice myself to make sure the youngsters can have a slightly better social life

KittCat · 08/11/2020 16:28

Ffs Biscuit

user1493494961 · 08/11/2020 16:28

You crack on love.

Jeremyironseverything · 08/11/2020 16:29

Or to wear a seatbelt? Or underage drinking?

Bloody government trying to save lives.

whattodo2019 · 08/11/2020 16:31

Umm. Well, you carry on as usual, but don't go running to the NHS when you need some medical help!

pjmask · 08/11/2020 16:31

It's a fair point! Why do people feel they have to stifle debate? Challenging the government's dubious introduction of new "laws" in the way it has for the last eight months doesn't make one an anti vax conspiracy theorising flat earther ffs

ChasedByFox · 08/11/2020 16:33

I read on here that only 20% of Britons are isolating when they need to. I assume they all take your attitude. Biscuit

ramblingsofanobody · 08/11/2020 16:33

Have another Biscuit

Shut the door on your way out.

Goingtogetflamed · 08/11/2020 16:34

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MissBaskinIfYoureNasty · 08/11/2020 16:35

Yanbu

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 08/11/2020 16:35

@ScribblingPixie

It's pretty shocking, I agree, OP. And if you live in Scotland you have the prospect of the government being able to prosecute you for conversations you have in your own home, too. Quite a road we've travelled in a year - and will we be able to retrace our steps?
Quite.

Brings to mind old proverb - The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

whoamIamIalright · 08/11/2020 16:36

I don’t think it’s ok at all. Personally I feel very uncomfortable at the level of legislation controlling our personal lives and only hope it won’t be forever. I was commenting to DP today how it’s ok for masses of people to go to a supermarket yet restaurants, hairdressers and other businesses who have spent a fortune to implement social distancing measures are forced to close. If I try to look for any common sense in all this I can’t find it - just incompetence and abuse of power from the government in my opinion. I feel though the lack of disclosure of their COVID data is starting to get people questioning what we have allowed to happen, perhaps the tide is turning.

Unsure33 · 08/11/2020 16:36

You had better take this up with all other European governments who have stricter rules than us as well .

And while you are at it research the problems that the Italians are having in their hospitals again .

x2boys · 08/11/2020 16:38

So what do you think we should do then ?🙄

Pandamanium · 08/11/2020 16:38

Govt making the rules

That's what Governments do.

MoodieMare · 08/11/2020 16:39

Especially when it's to keep a virus from spreading when the average death of a virus is higher than the life expectancy.

I keep reading this, and keep thinking that I'm not just worried about dying though...... I'm worried that I might have life changing health issues because of it, or worried I may not be able to get treatment at the time I need it because I'm back of the queue of an overwhelmed NHS, and covid hasn't been around long enough to know who it affects and how and why to what degree of severity etc apart from the obvious that like most viruses like it, it targets the elderly and physically vulnerable the most because they're physically less able to fight it off.
Am I angry that I have to change how I live to save an NHS that has been pushed into the ground by years and years of mismanagement and underfunding? You're damned right I am!
I'm very angry that society is now having to suffer, businesses close, people lose jobs, people isolated from loved ones, exhorted to do our bit by the very people who've put the NHS in the shit state it's in right now.

But my anger will solve nothing, refusal to do it will solve nothing. Where we are right now, we've got to work with what we've got.

AlternativePerspective · 08/11/2020 16:39

People like you spend far too much time focusing on the people who are dying that you seem to have lost sight of those who have survived with serious long-term health problems.

Someone on my FB timeline had COVID in the very beginning. On the day she fell ill she ran 9km because that’s what she used to do. Now she can barely get out of bed some days, is constantly breathless and exhausted.

Someone like Kate Garroway’s DH survived, but survived is about as far as it goes. He can’t walk, talk, move, he is in a hospital bed and they have no idea whether or for how long he will survive. But at least he’s not dead eh?

I am a flu survivor. Four years ago I ended up on full life support after I contracted the flu, was diagnosed with a genetic heart condition and also with additional heart complications brought on by the flu virus attacking my heart. I spent 2.5 years unable to walk more than about 20 yards without having to stop for breath, unable to pick up anything like a saucepan, or get a tray out of the oven because bending down made me breathless. I have had to be defibrillated after my heart rate shot up to 220 bpm and I’ve also had a cardiac arrest and subsequent CPR.

I’ve since had surgery to increase my quality of life and for now I’m doing well but my future lies in a heart transplant. So I have a fairly good understanding of what surviving an illness as opposed to dying from one actually means.

But if you catch COVID then I think of it as natural selection at this stage... So crack on, because you’ll be the one who’s ill, not me.

Awomanwalksintoabar · 08/11/2020 16:40

I don’t think you’re wrong actually, OP. In France, the Constitutional Court ruled that the government couldn’t legislate on the number of visitors people could have in their own homes. And in Germany, the restrictions on how many people you can have in your house remains strong advice, rather than law. It’s a slippery slope, I agree. FWIW, people here in Germany are taking the “advice” - it doesn’t have to be a law for people to adhere to it.

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