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To think the govt has no right to tell me who I'm allowed to have in my home?

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HumanFemale1 · 08/11/2020 16:16

Anyone else feels the same? I just don't think this is OK. Govt making the rules of who I am allowed to have in my home or how many people I'm allowed to have in...

Especially when it's to keep a virus from spreading when the average death of a virus is higher than the life expectancy. But for any reason really. If the govt was making this rule for any other reason people would be horiffied.

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HumanFemale1 · 09/11/2020 15:14

@barbites

Not all of them but they generally aren't good for you so is it selfish to do them and expect the NHS to pick up the fallout? I'm not saying it is it or isn't but the notion that anyone that isn't following COVID law deserves to suffer and presumably die quietly at home is utter crap!
Not only is it crap but it cannot be enforced. You can still get covid by doing things that are within the law such as going to work, hanging out with one friend outside, getting a take away coffee and going on a trip. Covid doesn't leave you alone because it knows you're at work.

So even if I broke every single rule and end up in the hospital with covid, considering we do not have an effective test and trace, there is no way of knowing whether I picked it up while breaking the rules or while doing something withing the rules.

It's an idiotic idea, it gives me second hand embarrassment seeing the stasi mumsnetters repeat it as if it's some sort of gotcha...

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BonnesVacances · 09/11/2020 15:19

Covid doesn't leave you alone because it knows you're at work.

No, but reducing your exposure to being at work only reduces the chances of you catching it or transmitting it.

I genuinely do not understand why this is so hard for people to grasp. Confused

barbites · 09/11/2020 15:37

@BonnesVacances

Covid doesn't leave you alone because it knows you're at work.

No, but reducing your exposure to being at work only reduces the chances of you catching it or transmitting it.

I genuinely do not understand why this is so hard for people to grasp. Confused

I don't think that's the point. It's the ridiculous and often repeated statement that if you don't follow all the COVID rules and you get covid you should surrender your right to any NHS treatment.
User43210 · 09/11/2020 17:32

@BonnesVacances

Covid doesn't leave you alone because it knows you're at work.

No, but reducing your exposure to being at work only reduces the chances of you catching it or transmitting it.

I genuinely do not understand why this is so hard for people to grasp. Confused

I was thinking the same. If the OP actually read the posts, I mentioned it's about necessary risks. Work is one. But if you catch and spread, more people will get ill. You're literally killing people so you can have a flaming cuppa. Crazy selfish people in this world.
User43210 · 09/11/2020 17:32

I should say risking killing people*

barbites · 09/11/2020 17:45

There's that word again...selfish. How does anyone know whether a cup of tea with another human is enough to keep someone mentally ok?
So sick of everyone blaming other people. It's exhausting. This whole thing is exhausting.

Northernsoulgirl45 · 09/11/2020 18:13

Well school is a necessary risk. However two of our dds are now self isolating. One was a close contact.
Guess my ecv dh will have to keep out of our way.

EasterIssland · 09/11/2020 18:52

@barbites

There's that word again...selfish. How does anyone know whether a cup of tea with another human is enough to keep someone mentally ok? So sick of everyone blaming other people. It's exhausting. This whole thing is exhausting.
Do you think those of us who are following the rules aren’t mentally suffering ? Cuz we’re as well. However i at least have another approach. The sooner this is over the sooner I can get back to my previous life where I can see my family
chickenyhead · 09/11/2020 18:55

I think that there is a difference between flagrant, partying raves and occasionally seeing your mum for a cup of tea to stay sane.

We won't see anyone because we are vulnerable, but I can accept others may need reasonable adjustments.

PutYourHeadscarfOnNorma · 09/11/2020 18:55

Easter, you are proving why Barbarites' 'exhausting' comment is so accurate.

barbites · 09/11/2020 18:56

@EasterIssland I am following all the rules (even though I don't agree) I just don't judge everyone that doesn't...

Vicki1990 · 09/11/2020 21:07

I'd rather not see my loved ones for a few weeks and make sure they are safe and well.

It's not if you get it, it's who you could pass it to and what it could do to them.

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HumanFemale1 · 09/11/2020 21:22

@User43210

I should say risking killing people*
You do the same when you drive and yet we don't yell at people for driving and tell them they're only allowed to drive if the journey is necessary. Or when you come in contact with people during flu season. It's ridiculous.

There is only so long you can tell people they are selfish if they dare to get coffee after work because the barista might pass it to their boyfriend who might pass it on to their sister in law who might pass it on to their 80 year old grandma who dies.

How do you not realize how insane you sound?

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Zem74 · 09/11/2020 21:38

I am in the extremely clinically vulnerable group, and whilst I comply with all the new ‘rules’ I also think that it is extremely worrying how much we are being dictated to, and how nobody seems to be able to question any of this without being called a crazy conspiracy theorist!

User43210 · 09/11/2020 22:52

@barbites

There's that word again...selfish. How does anyone know whether a cup of tea with another human is enough to keep someone mentally ok? So sick of everyone blaming other people. It's exhausting. This whole thing is exhausting.
But it's okay for people to cause my anxiety to increase by telling me "this is less than 6 people so you can come to the pub" when I want to stay isolated yet they try to pressure me and make me unreasonable because it's "in the guidance". I just want to keep myself and my baby safe but I'm told I'm unreasonable because I'm not pushing the guidelines to the extreme.
PutYourHeadscarfOnNorma · 09/11/2020 22:53

@Vicki1990

I'd rather not see my loved ones for a few weeks and make sure they are safe and well.

It's not if you get it, it's who you could pass it to and what it could do to them.

The intelligence level here is beyond reproach.
LastTrainEast · 09/11/2020 23:01

@HumanFemale1

Anyone else feels the same? I just don't think this is OK. Govt making the rules of who I am allowed to have in my home or how many people I'm allowed to have in...

Especially when it's to keep a virus from spreading when the average death of a virus is higher than the life expectancy. But for any reason really. If the govt was making this rule for any other reason people would be horiffied.

Wrong

The elected Government makes laws all the time limiting what you can do in your home.
For example it is illegal to use your home to sell drugs or to keep slaves. You are forbidden from storing explosives including excessive quantities of fuel and so on.

Laws protecting others from your lack of judgement are common.

You don't get to pick and choose which laws you like. Especially not based on something you saw on youtube.

Vicki1990 · 09/11/2020 23:22

@PutYourHeadscarfOnNorma that level of intelligence is required on a thread like this imo

PutYourHeadscarfOnNorma · 09/11/2020 23:25

As I said, Vicki.

Eng123 · 09/11/2020 23:35

Guys we shouldn't be replying to the OP... you can argue with stupid, but it's pointless!

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HumanFemale1 · 09/11/2020 23:42

I'm sure people who were going to reply will now not do so because @Eng123, the authority of mumsnet posting told them not to.

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barbites · 10/11/2020 00:02

Who is stupid?!

MercyBooth · 10/11/2020 00:11

@Flyonawalk @TheKeatingFive DH has COPD The common cold could turn very nasty for him. I dont recall people being expected to wear masks to protect him. Or them being called COPD deniers.

janetmendoza · 10/11/2020 00:19

Wrong

The elected Government makes laws all the time limiting what you can do in your home.
For example it is illegal to use your home to sell drugs or to keep slaves. You are forbidden from storing explosives including excessive quantities of fuel and so on.

Laws protecting others from your lack of judgement are common.

You don't get to pick and choose which laws you like. Especially not based on something you saw on youtube.
Fabulous LastTrainEast - this exactly

MercyBooth · 10/11/2020 00:46

There’s no doubt that Covid risk is strongly correlated with age

Which is why the posts about WASPI women and the raising of the state pension age that have been on here in the past, havent aged well!!!!!