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Boris Johnson press conference at 5pm

614 replies

Jourdain11 · 31/10/2020 12:50

Sooner than expected! Wondering what he will say...

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Thatwentbadly · 31/10/2020 14:57

@Jourdain11

Sooner than expected! Wondering what he will say...
I bet he is wondering too.
ineedaholidaynow · 31/10/2020 14:58

Not much point extending the half term holiday as some schools have already gone back.

So sorry @JacobReesMogadishu

Dustballs · 31/10/2020 14:59

*Jourdain11

Sooner than expected! Wondering what he will say...*

That's why they've put it back an hour. So they can gather more feedback from mumsnet etc and decide what BJ is going to say.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 31/10/2020 14:59

Every fucker around here has flocked to the supermarkets for some good old fashioned panic buying, ffs!

I hope they implement some serious enforcement of the rules this time otherwise it's utterly pointless. 🤦🏻‍♀️

ivykaty44 · 31/10/2020 14:59

its 5pm not 4pm

ohthegoats · 31/10/2020 15:00

Oh FFS, teaching unions calling for schools to close. Fuck this.

Unions are toothless, don't worry. It might just result in some decent safety measures being introduced.

Dustballs · 31/10/2020 15:01

Oh FFS, teaching unions calling for schools to close. Fuck this.

Where did you read this @kirinm?

Could that be why they've put it back an hour?

KOKOagainandagain · 31/10/2020 15:01

The tier model of local lockdowns that was applied instead of a national 'circuit break' as advised 'by science' has failed absolutely.

There is no logic. I live in a tier 1 county with higher levels per 100,000 in some areas to areas of the neighbouring tier 2 county. Plus infections in areas of my county have doubled in the last week.

I believe that lockdown is only necessary when you have failed. Be pissed off with failure, not lockdown. We could have looked at best practice last time - this time there really is no excuse.

Plus keeping schools open is just keeping transmission routes open. There is no logic. Learning can happen outside of a school building and there has been plenty of time to set this up and provide funding for it to happen.

According to trickle down theory we are all benefitted by billionaires who have hugely increased wealth during the pandemic plus the stock market and housing market are booming so all is well.

Inkpaperstars · 31/10/2020 15:03

@JacobReesMogadishu I am so so sorry to hear about your mum Flowers

kirinm · 31/10/2020 15:03

@Dustballs

Oh FFS, teaching unions calling for schools to close. Fuck this.

Where did you read this @kirinm?

Could that be why they've put it back an hour?

Guardian Liveblog
longtompot · 31/10/2020 15:06

@JacobReesMogadishu so sorry for your loss Flowers

As many have said, it's on at 5pm now www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54762048

the80sweregreat · 31/10/2020 15:06

The guardian have a piece about the teaching unions.

AsMuchUseAsAMarzipanDildo · 31/10/2020 15:10

Delta1

Boris Johnson press conference at 5pm
YoniAndGuy · 31/10/2020 15:12

A Boris appearance?!

What's the point?

Oof would love to fast forward to the point where we have a real government again.

SophieB100 · 31/10/2020 15:13

Copy and paste from Guardian's live feed (for those interested in unions re: education):

Teaching union calls for schools to close
The National Education Union (NEU) has called for schools and colleges to be included in any lockdown.

The Union says that schools should only remain open to the children of key workers and vulnerable children during such a general closure period. Boris Johnson is expected to say that schools, universities and colleges should remain open in a four-week lockdown.

But Kevin Courtney, joint general secretary of the NEU said:

It is clear from ONS data that schools are an engine for virus transmission. It would be self-defeating for the government to impose a national lockdown, whilst ignoring the role of schools as a major contributor to the spread of the virus.

Such a lockdown would impose pain on the whole community - but not be as effective as it could be if schools were included. Ignoring the role of schools and colleges in the spread of the virus is likely to lead to the need for even longer lockdowns in future.

The latest figures from the ONS estimate that 1% of primary pupils and 2% of secondary pupils have the virus and that these levels have increased dramatically since wider opening in September. NEU analysis of ONS figures shows that virus levels are now 9 times higher amongst primary pupils and an astonishing 50 times higher amongst secondary pupils.

The National Education Union called for a two week circuit break over half term to include schools, which the Wales Government and the Northern Ireland assembly have done - but the Government in Westminster has ignored this call. More severe measures are now called for as a result, the Government should not make this mistake again.

The government should include all schools in proposals for an immediate national lockdown and as a minimum be preparing for school rotas at the end of that period, including by actually meeting its promise to deliver broadband and equipment to those children who do not have them.

It is also vital that the government ensure proper financial support for all those affected by lockdown including crucial supply teachers and other staff.

Universities must move all non-essential teaching online if England goes into another national lockdown, a union has said.

The University and College Union (UCU) said it would be “incomprehensible” if teaching continued in person if England faces tighter restrictions from next week as expected.

Figures put together by the union suggest that there have been more than 35,000 cases on campuses since term started last month.

UCU general secretary Jo Grady said:

The health and safety of the country is being put at risk because of this government’s insistence that universities must continue with in-person teaching.

It would be incomprehensible if universities were allowed to continue to do this after the outbreaks we have seen on campuses across the country this term.

Ministers must tell universities to move all non-essential in-person teaching online as part of any national lockdown.

The union has been campaigning for a total shift online for some time, and previously launched a petition demanding that the switch was made “where possible”.

It is thought that educational settings will be told that they can remain open if another lockdown is announced

randomer · 31/10/2020 15:14

I wonder if it will be a camel, a sombrero, a lamp shade or a mugger today?

MimiDaisy11 · 31/10/2020 15:17

He's such a bad leader. It's always all over the place. I get that it's difficult and things change but other countries are more consistent. It always comes across like he's playing catch up and just trying random things, not because of evidence but because he's not sure what to do.

SophieB100 · 31/10/2020 15:17

From the above Guardian piece, this jumps out at me:

The latest figures from the ONS estimate that 1% of primary pupils and 2% of secondary pupils have the virus and that these levels have increased dramatically since wider opening in September. NEU analysis of ONS figures shows that virus levels are now 9 times higher amongst primary pupils and an astonishing 50 times higher amongst secondary pupils.
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Secondary teacher here! Looking forward to returning on Monday.
Not.

Goldistheanswer · 31/10/2020 15:17

This is what one of the SAGE scientists was saying to the Today radio programme earlier t.co/Qd3lKSSdL8

VickyEadieofThigh · 31/10/2020 15:19

@JosephineDeBeauharnais

He won’t say anything new. He’ll say things are bad, getting worse in places, comply to save Xmas, considering further restrictions, schools stay open, work from home, wear a mask piffle waffle piffle waffle. Then he’ll be forced to come out again mid week and say national lockdown from next weekend. I won’t be watching.
Exactly this.

Johnson is so inept it makes me despair.

SophieB100 · 31/10/2020 15:19

@randomer

A mugger wearing a sombrero, riding a camel which itself wears a lampshade.
Wink

MrsGrindah · 31/10/2020 15:21

@JacobReesMogadishu So sorry.. have a big hug.

PeskyRooks · 31/10/2020 15:21

DH just came back from Tesco and it's bloody heaving, they're having to count people in again for the first time in ages. Great. Here we go again.

randomer · 31/10/2020 15:25

@SophieB100, but it only comes out after 10 pm in Stoke on Trent on a Tuesday.

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