Lockdown in England from next week **title edited by MNHQ**

[Velvetpeel]

The Times is reporting that we are headed for a month long lockdown until Dec 1st.
No details yet...
Why do they always announce things on the drip feed - makes it all even more stressful

@justasking111

[quote ShortFatandDumpy]
Ffs. We were locked down in Wales until mid July. Local lockdown all of September which went right into the Welsh Fire Break.

I have not seen another human (except Tesco click and collect man) since August. I know no one in my borough. I cant take anymore

I think Drakeford knew about this. He said we had tried county lockdown which failed, he has done the firebreak, he is done with it now until after xmas. Knowing full well that the english were going into lockdown so we would not be seeing them anyway.

We will just have to amuse ourselves the best way we can for the next month.[/quote]
But it won't just be a month though it'll go on and on and on for months on end like the last one did.

Why @JaffaCake70

@SabrinaTheTeenageBitch

The way things are being leaked to newspapers for people to speculate/agonise over is absolutely shameful

Read about the nudge theory, the drip drip is so we can rant now and will have run out of steam by the time of the announcement.

UK lockdown from next week. Hardly surprising 🤷🏻‍♀️

The three First Ministers are holding a meeting with Boris to knock some sense into him.

@Ozgirl75

Am I reading it wrongly that this is stricter than the first one? Last time businesses could stay open (although people should work from home if they could) whereas this seems to be suggesting that ALL non essential businesses would close? I run a business, a manufacturing company. I’m not essential, but I am in that I employ people who need a wage, and I have suppliers to pay etc. Furlough has ended so what would we do with our staff? Last time we stayed open with one staff member and just about ticked over for a couple of months, living on the businesses capital (which we have NOT been able to recoup over the following 5 months, although we are on track).

You could stay open throughout. We did. Dh hasn't taken a single day off this year.

Sorry but any lockdown with schools still open is pointless, my daughter in school bubble of 60 plus staff and son bubble off 200 plus staff. So they are mixing with far more people than we have since March ! !

@GirlCrush

its the 'to save christmas' that annoys me!

why?? christmas is ONE day and overrated anyway.....far too much importance placed on some biblical fairy story! sod christmas.....but no, people want tinsel and turkey at all costs!

the ‘to save Christmas’ might be to get people on board. It’s better than ‘we’ve fucked up and now it’s pretty much the only option left to us.’

Thing is we will lockdown, the numbers will come down yet in December, it will rise again with everyone meeting up for the festive season. Its not a lockdown if schools, nurseries and universities all stay open either

Kids need to be in school, life is shit enough without locking them out from school again!

Lockdown is a waste of time. It didn’t work before and it won’t work now.

Sturgeon will announce it starting at Monday lunch time and on Tuesday she will give us the definition of lunch which will be withdrawn on Wednesday.

Absolutely pointless if schools are open. That's at least 20 million people (school pupils, parents, staff and their families) who are not really locking down as happened in March.

To whatever government temperature-taker is reading this: a lockdown won’t work with schools open. We are two teachers in secondary schools with two kids in primary in a tier 2 area and we’ve seen how bad it in in areas that are only on “high alert”. My friend who’s a paramedic and my sister in law who’s a doctor are telling us how bad it is in our hospital trust. You can’t close everything else down and keep schools open, we’ve seen with our own eyes that the school situation isn’t working.

I hope this link works.

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[quote Velvetpeel]@Lockheart the trouble is that the government’s communication strategy encourages this. We should be getting all
the information up front. It stinks.[/quote]
Im getting quite used to it. Politics has been conducted like this for the last 2 or 3 years now. I think ive got immune to how dreadful it is.

Btw for anyone wondering the trial balloon was the bbc running stories on covid Christmas all week and having a big headline either yesterday or the day before.

Johnson has no where left to go by logic too. Its either that to 'attempt to save Christmas' in at least some parts of the country or end up being the grinch who stole Christmas and/or the one who killed your granny on Christmas day because he didn't do a lockdown.

A very strict lockdown is now inevitable im afraid. The only debate is over what exactly it will cover. But i would suspect in keeping with how these leaks work - it will be close to how its being reported.

@kittensarecute

I'm done. This is obviously how life is going to be forever, what's the fucking point anymore I don't want to be here anymore

@kittensarecute Hope you're OK. have you got anyone you can talk to in RL? I know it's much easier said than done but I'm trying to just take it all one day at a time instead of looking too far ahead, that way it's not too overwhelming

The 'saving Christmas' thing really winds me up. It's just a softening up exercise to get people to comply to more rules and regs. I doubt it will work.

placing so much emphasis on saving christmas might mean people see december 25th as the day its all over.....first thing half the country then does is meet up with family to eat, drink and be merry!

by new year we will be seeing cases and deaths on the rise just like we are this month.....january will be bloody grim

because we all holdout for christmas

thats my take on it anyway

Gosh. It really messes with my nerves the way they announce things like this.

Last time I thought it was going to be lockdown though it turned out to be a 10pm pubs closing and no difference to us personally. The day after they wheeled out the scientists and health advisor.

Maybe theyre getting us worked up so whatever they do suggest will be more palatable.

Our income is already hugely impacted. I hate the not knowing. I'm also scared for my health :(

We’ve not had any cases in our school yet. I think it’s reasonable to close everything else first, unless you are in a high risk area now.

@MiaMarshmallows

Thing is we will lockdown, the numbers will come down yet in December, it will rise again with everyone meeting up for the festive season. Its not a lockdown if schools, nurseries and universities all stay open either

Universities fear bankruptcy some have been teetering for a few years now. Schools may have rolling attendance with attendance breaks. Lets be honest school is a babysitter so that parents can work it is how our society works now with both parents working. We would have to go back to my mothers time when women packed up work when the little ones came along.

The issue is that they don't have a plan B for schools. The plan B that schools have been asking for all this time. The plan B that unions have asked for.

The gov have significantly cut allocation for laptops for schools so schools have lost 80-100% of their allocation.

If schools were prepared it could be when levels reach X/100k in your area you go to a blended learning approach. When they reduce to X/100k then you are back in full classes.

It worked well with 1/2 the classes in in June so why not now?

Tanith

He should have done this last week!

What on earth is the point in locking down and not including the schools? An extended half term was the perfect time to do it.

It wasn't implemented this week as Labour had asked for it. Simples. Playground Politics.