Lockdown in England from next week **title edited by MNHQ**

[Velvetpeel]

The Times is reporting that we are headed for a month long lockdown until Dec 1st.
No details yet...
Why do they always announce things on the drip feed - makes it all even more stressful

I’m assuming it will be extended as winter flu etc will of themselves put increasing additional pressure on hospitals.
That PowerPoint of hospital trusts and pressure points should have been interesting but it was unreadable. I took photo as I wanted to look at it. Can’t read the hosp names which were also cut off. Shockingly poor info graphics there.

But as is current plan

Open 2nd OR 3rd?

The new lockdown is due to end on 2 December but today’s news coverage is about it being extended further is the number of cases is still too high.

@HeronLanyon

I’m assuming it will be extended as winter flu etc will of themselves put increasing additional pressure on hospitals. That PowerPoint of hospital trusts and pressure points should have been interesting but it was unreadable. I took photo as I wanted to look at it. Can’t read the hosp names which were also cut off. Shockingly poor info graphics there.

Blackpool, Liverpool City Hospitals, Halton & Warrington, Wrightington, Wigan & Leigh Trusts and I forget which others if my memory serves me correctly. These are the ones who were fairing worst earlier in the week and I know to be exceeding April Peak. I think there was one maybe two more but several others which were close.

But the NW has a lower R rate atm, and capacity in some of the other hospitals nearby isn't so bad. Yet.

The SW has the lowest number of beds per head of population but a much higher R rate. So although the number of cases is much lower there, the danger is a massive surge hitting very quickly and there not being alternative options.

So the chart is only helpful to a degree. You have to understand why BOTH areas with high numbers of cases and low numbers of cases are still at risk.

I think the restrictions will end at midnight on Wednesday 2nd so reopen on Thursday 3rd as that is exactly 4 weeks. But on that date areas will be open into tiers so low rate areas might reopen as tier 1, high rates as tier 2 etc

Yes redtoothbrush that’s exactly why I and no doubt many others wanted to look at them carefully - impossible !

They are already laying the groundwork for extending it.

Without schools closing for 3 weeks, I think they know now that it won’t be enough to get the R down.

We're all at home till February, IMO.
We may get a brief Xmas reprieve, and school Xmas hols extended to minimise the fallout/rate increase of that.

We're all at home till February, IMO.
We may get a brief Xmas reprieve, and school Xmas hols extended to minimise the fallout/rate increase of that.

@HeronLanyon

Yes redtoothbrush that’s exactly why I and no doubt many others wanted to look at them carefully - impossible !

@HeronLanyon

Especially for you.

Thank you red !

Infections in hospitals arise when a patient is asymptomatic and they dont get test results back quickly or the nurses get infected because they have cheap and inadequate PPE when dealing even with confirmed positive covid cases. Cheap masks dont keep out all virus particles, that's why hospital staff are getting reinfected now. They are not even allowed to buy their own PPE.

People seem to think the NHS has good PPE now - but that is only in intensive care. It's a miracle there are not more hospital outbreaks.

The South West has a problem now because 25% of wards had to be closed after an outbreak in a large DGH. There was talk of moving patients there from the North, that cant happen now (and some would likely die en route if it was tried).

The law is published - draft so far but likely to be passed today (England only and from tomorrow would be in force)
www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1200/pdfs/uksi_20201200_en.pdf
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