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Lockdown in England from next week **title edited by MNHQ**

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Velvetpeel · 30/10/2020 22:26

The Times is reporting that we are headed for a month long lockdown until Dec 1st.
No details yet...
Why do they always announce things on the drip feed - makes it all even more stressful

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Appuskidu · 31/10/2020 11:41

No european country going into lockdown again is closing schools for more than an additional week.

Yet.

walksen · 31/10/2020 11:41

"Lockdowns don’t work. Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?!"

If the stated goal of lockdown is to protect the NHS then it did work. Hospitalisation halved every fortnight last time.

As it is they will rise for the next 3 weeks regardless of what action we take and the reports are that by December they will be overwhelmed.

Granted too many services were closed as it was feared the first wave would be worse. Seems like some aspects have changed but services in tier 3 areas are now being cut by neccesity.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 31/10/2020 11:43

Anyone want to guess what about kids sports ? Not at all urgent I know but hugely important to my daughter (training at the moment and trying hard to catch up with the missed months.)

PhilCornwall1 · 31/10/2020 11:44

Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?!

Didn't Theresa May do that three times (was at least twice anyway) with votes on the Withdrawal Deal?

TheKeatingFive · 31/10/2020 11:45

Yet

There’s absolutely no indication that they’ll need to. In Ireland, our daily case numbers have dropped by about a third already.

bringbackCabanas · 31/10/2020 11:46

@PineappleUpsideDownCake I'm really worried about this too. Getting back to sport has been hugely important to my DCs, both mentally and physically. They'll really struggle if they are cancelled again Sad

PilatesPeach · 31/10/2020 11:47

Will there be financial help again I wonder? Self-employed here not sure how people are meant to manage again if working in leisure sector especially after being severely affected before.

pontypridd · 31/10/2020 11:49

Anyone want to guess what about kids sports ? Not at all urgent I know but hugely important to my daughter

I’m worried about this too. It’s more important to my two than school for their sanity.

More worried for the people that run clubs and organisations though. I don’t think they’ll survive a second lockdown. Many have already folded and the rest are on their knees.

Aragog · 31/10/2020 11:49

Vulnerable pupils and teachers should be able to stay at home and be supported financially.

I doubt that will happen.
They may say the shielded can stay home perhaps, if we are lucky.

But I doubt they'll include the clinically vulnerable (so vulnerable but not shielded) in this.

By saying that clinically vulnerable staff and children need to stay away from school they'd have to admit that schools aren't really Covid safe and that they've been putting staff and children at risk throughout. They won't want to do that.

I was fortunate in the first lockdown on that my headteacher managed to keep all vulnerable staff working from home. I spent the time working full time from home overseeing our home learning. But I doubt we can do that this time.

I also suspect that because I've now had Covid that when I am able to return (currently signed off for up to a month and awaiting gp follow up late next week) I will be treated as immune and be in my same role teaching across school with no SDing etc again. The complications I've different from Covid means that I have another issue that adds to my vulnerability now.

I just hope that I really am immune. I'd like to think so. But no one really knows for sure it seems. Reinfection seems to be low but half the time it's hard to determine what is really the case.

It's like the school case numbers. I know many of these aren't being officially recorded and the true level of numbers in individual schools isn't being shred with parents, let alone further afield.

Lots of parents still believe that children don't get Covid and don't spread it. My personal experience suggests this isn't actually the case.

PineappleUpsideDownCake · 31/10/2020 11:51

Yep I'm more concerned about this than school too.

Its safer than school . (As is just about any activity !?)

willitbetonight · 31/10/2020 12:01

Teachers at my children's school are wearing ppe. I don't understand why all are not. My children are used to people wearing masks now.

Appuskidu · 31/10/2020 12:05

@willitbetonight

Teachers at my children's school are wearing ppe. I don't understand why all are not. My children are used to people wearing masks now.
Because the guidance says it should be avoided.
Lockdown in England from next week **title edited by MNHQ**
Eccle80 · 31/10/2020 12:11

[quote bringbackCabanas]@PineappleUpsideDownCake I'm really worried about this too. Getting back to sport has been hugely important to my DCs, both mentally and physically. They'll really struggle if they are cancelled again Sad[/quote]
Me too, swimming is massively important to their physical and mental health, and they have worked really hard to get fitness back. It is all really carefully and safely organised, they will be devastated to lose it again

Glitterynails · 31/10/2020 12:18

Germany have invested in ventilation in schools. France have pupils in masks. In England we have neither of these. Schools must be made safer to stay open.

Parker231 · 31/10/2020 12:21

Masks should be made compulsory (medical cases exempted) for all teachers and students. It happens from kindergarten upwards in other countries and those are the ones who have the lowest cases and most normal life again.

Devilesko · 31/10/2020 12:27

It's hardly a lockdown with schools open.
Lies again.

rosie1959 · 31/10/2020 12:32

As the government have not actually made any announcements yet it cant be lies
France are in lockdown but schools are still open

Lavenderseas · 31/10/2020 12:33

It's hardly a lockdown with schools open.
Lies again

The UK Government (as well as the German and French one) has always made it clear that they will always try to keep schools open. There are no lies!

We're locking down other areas of life SO THAT key services like health and education can stay open.

Sunflowers246 · 31/10/2020 12:35

The Government has clearly and consistently stated that they want to avoid closing schools again.

So hopefully they'll stick to their promise and keep them open!

Sunflowers246 · 31/10/2020 12:36

It's hardly a lockdown with schools open.
Lies again.

France and Germany are also 'in lockdown' in order to keep schools and hospitals open.

I can't see any lie Hmm

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 31/10/2020 12:40

@TheKeatingFive

They are vitally important, but not at all on a par with things like bin men, A&E staff, farmers, nuclear power station workers, etc.

Children have severely disrupted schooling for most of 2020. Closing again would be ridiculous.

No european country going into lockdown again is closing schools for more than an additional week. Why would England go out on a limb? Especially as early data clearly indicates that it isn’t required to get the numbers down.

Other countries have more mitigation’s in place in schools.

Given schools are the highest number of cases at the moment of course it makes sense to go remote with them.

bringbackCabanas · 31/10/2020 12:41

@Devilesko not sure where the lie is, can you explain?

Parker231 · 31/10/2020 12:47

Downing Street press conference at 4pm today

Sonnenscheins · 31/10/2020 12:49

@Devilesko what lies do you mean?

LindaEllen · 31/10/2020 12:49

I don't see the point of doing this is schools and universities are still open.

The virus will simply spread among children/students who will bring it home to their locked down families anyway.