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Lockdown in England from next week **title edited by MNHQ**

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Velvetpeel · 30/10/2020 22:26

The Times is reporting that we are headed for a month long lockdown until Dec 1st.
No details yet...
Why do they always announce things on the drip feed - makes it all even more stressful

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CovidClara · 30/10/2020 23:41

@GirlCrush

how will we cope with no furlough??
It will be back The job support scheme in place from November has already been doubled since it was first announced and so it is very close to the CJRS rate now.
JS87 · 30/10/2020 23:42

It’s too late to close universities now. All teaching can go online but you can’t send all those students in halls of residences back home as loads of them have covid and it will just spread it further.

monkeytennis97 · 30/10/2020 23:43

@Dustballs

If schools and universities stay open now - we'll have to lockdown again - totally - a month or two later.

This government leaves everything too late. Delays the essential stuff. It's cowardly.

Every time they delay and avoid they make the problem worse.

Yup.
Leflic · 30/10/2020 23:43

@Dustballs

*Boris backed himself into a corner when he stupidly said that schools will remain open. It's clear that schools and universities are driving the spread. Now he can't close them again without losing face. He's a dick.*

This is it.

I don’t think the majority of people want schools to close though.

It doesn’t affect kids and teachers just have to hope they get a mild viral load from their students.Much easier to tack and trace and isolate if that the main sector open. If the rest of the population is locked down there will still be a considerable drop in cases/ deaths but without kids going mad at home.

catchingzzzeds · 30/10/2020 23:44

@JS87 I do wonder how they are going to get all those students home for the holidays? Is there a plan?! In an ideal world the students would isolate before travelling home but I'm not sure if that's realistic.

chillied · 30/10/2020 23:45

What does lockdown really mean this time? Do you think this will mean no households meeting up? What about kids football?

monkeytennis97 · 30/10/2020 23:46

@Leflic "Teachers just have to hope they get a mild viral load".

I hope you do too.

MH1111 · 30/10/2020 23:46

Another pointless lockdown. Again killing more people than it saves.
99% of people have nothing to fear from Covid.

Summerfreeze · 30/10/2020 23:46

20 million or so people who were not necessarily circulating in the last lockdown (pupils and their families, school staff and their families) will be mixing and spreading in this one if schools are kept open. 10 million pupils and staff plus their families- that's a lot more contact points for the virus!

Exactly this. Completely pointless without closing the schools. And I don't fucking care if everyone thinks it would be BAD to close the schools. It would be BAD to have a pandemic. Bad stuff doesn't just not happen to us because it's inconvenient.

Enoughnowstop · 30/10/2020 23:46

It doesn’t affect kids and teachers just have to hope they get a mild viral load from their students

It does affect kids and fuck the school staff, eh? We may be expendable in general terms but our health and our lives matter to our families.

justasking111 · 30/10/2020 23:46

@JS87

It’s too late to close universities now. All teaching can go online but you can’t send all those students in halls of residences back home as loads of them have covid and it will just spread it further.
They are pretty much getting over covid now in unis, just the late arrivals to worry about. DS uni many second years had it back in the spring, the freshers it has swept through very quickly. It is pretty much burnt out. Schools are a different kettle of fish, children are much more a part of family life.
Summerfreeze · 30/10/2020 23:48

It doesn’t affect kids and teachers just have to hope they get a mild viral load from their students

It does affect kids. How are people thick enough to still be saying shit like this?! Kids get it and spread it. Some of them get it badly but most are ok. The people they spread it to are the ones that are now dying in the kind of numbers that are necessitating an urgent lockdown. As for your comment about teachers - just disgusting. No teacher would get a mild viral load from a class of children, nor should they just have to 'hope' they're not going to die from going to work. Vile.

justasking111 · 30/10/2020 23:48

@MH1111

Another pointless lockdown. Again killing more people than it saves. 99% of people have nothing to fear from Covid.
People have a lot more to fear from the more common causes of death but they appear to be collateral damage. That horrifies me more than covid.
GirlCrush · 30/10/2020 23:48

@MH1111

Another pointless lockdown. Again killing more people than it saves. 99% of people have nothing to fear from Covid.
i fear losing my parents!! i fear losing other family members

also i'm getting older so i fear all side effects should i get it

finished31 · 30/10/2020 23:49

@Remmy123

They cannot shut schools etc why are everyone on this site wanting this to happen!!! Ffs
Because some of us could be CEV and it's getting scary
MH1111 · 30/10/2020 23:50

The danger to children from covid is minuscule. We should absolutely prioritise younger generations and keep schools and universities open

Glitterynails · 30/10/2020 23:50

@Leflic yeah as a pregnant teacher I just have to hope that I only get a viral load from the pupils.

Glitterynails · 30/10/2020 23:50
Hmm
RainbowPuzzle · 30/10/2020 23:51

It fills me with dread to think of the amount of people who will commit suicide if things go back to how they were before, everything locked down.

I don't know whether my own mental health can take that again. I have a disabled child who has only now, today, been given an appointment for nov 11 for something he has been waiting for - for the best part of a year. Delayed due to covid.

I have a chronic condition myself that I'm finally going to be seen for, in December. Delayed due to covid.

I have also only just got a new job working at one of the places that will probably be the first to close, after losing my once stable job all because of fucking covid.

I'm sick of it and I say that as somebody who has had the bastarding thing.

My good friends friend has recently been diagnosed with cancer, later than he would have been had it not been for covid.

I don't know what the answer is, I understand the risks, I just feel as though the restrictions will cause just as much a problem as the virus itself, what with people losing their livelihoods, deteriorating health because their conditions aren't being managed adequately, suicides through the roof.

Sadly I think our government has got more chance of platting piss than they have of the vast majority of people abiding by another lockdown.

Glitterynails · 30/10/2020 23:51

@MH1111 but schools also have adults in them.

D4rwin · 30/10/2020 23:51

The only way to knock it out would be to curtail socialising. But you only have to read a few comments that most people seem to think being told they can't see different family or acquaintances whenever they feel like it is a huge and impossible ask. I'm not sure why the English are so keen to socialise, I thought it was all stiff upper lip and trendy introverts who can't bear mixing. Apparently when it comes to it though a lot needier than they think!

Thewiseoneincognito · 30/10/2020 23:51

I expect after this next lockdown we will collectively realise and appreciate the effect schools being open actually has on the rate of spread.

2021 will be the year of homeschooling again.

Houseplantmad · 30/10/2020 23:51

Schools are on a different tier system than the rest of us. The plan for schools' tier 3 in England is for primaries to stay open and for older students (y10+) to have remote learning while younger ones attend school. It's a pig's ear but we don't seem to be alone in this. I thought Germany had a good handle on track and trace etc but clearly not good enough. What hope do we have with the shitshow that is in charge here? A friend who loves in Belgium says the government there is just as bad.

GirlCrush · 30/10/2020 23:52

@MH1111

The danger to children from covid is minuscule. We should absolutely prioritise younger generations and keep schools and universities open
nope. we should not, not when it comes to life/death.....schools closed for a short period of kids lives won't harm them

and maybe kids would quite like to save their grandparents over attending school ? has anyone asked them?

catchingzzzeds · 30/10/2020 23:52

@MH1111

The danger to children from covid is minuscule. We should absolutely prioritise younger generations and keep schools and universities open
I think you're missing the point, most children have a mild reaction to Covid but the family members and school staff they spread it to do not. Hence the rise in hospitalisations and deaths.