Data and Analysis Thread, started Oct 29

[PatriciaHolm]

With a link to the previous header for all the great links to data -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4057030-Pure-data-thread-1-Daily-numbers-graphs-focused-analyses?

And with a polite plea to keep the focus on data and analysis if you please.

thanks all

No one knows the rules about SI!!

We have just heard of a case in DS's football team (asymptomatic: surprise!)

The manager told us but then left it to the dad to decide what to do and said 'maybe think about getting your lad tested'...)

Surely this isn't how it works??

Interesting story, though. 4 family members tested . First test was routine weekly careworker test. She was postive with no symptoms. Her DH gets symptoms, tests positive. Both DSs tested by testers as they sometimes do. One positive, one negative. No symptoms.

Shows what mass and routine testing throws up!!

Just listening to local news, Torbay now the worst figures in South West, 167 per 100,000 this is double what it was for the week ending 16th October. Figures in Torbay hospital now higher than at the peak in April. They said the death rate is high as well, maybe due to elderly population I think they said it was 9 last week which is high considering it was zero for most of June and all of July August and September. South Hams is also going up, it was really low until recently. Exeter seems to have gone down alot and Plymouth starting to fall.

I am sure there were major underlying health conditions but have noticed someone under 19 is reported as having died today. And 2 more under 40.

We've just received a message from school saying face coverings in communal areas are mandatory form Monday.

Yes, it's in new guidelines, literally released 8 hours before lockdown..

Secondary only.

Spain 1623 deaths today compared to 200 yesterday. I wonder how that has happened, has there been an under reporting error and it's a tragic backlog?

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Spain have been very up and down since they changed their reporting methods in the summer.

This is the school mask press release, links back to the guidance: www.gov.uk/government/news/new-guidance-for-schools-colleges-and-early-years.

Spain COVID update: Data review finds more than 1,300 new deaths from earlier this year

• New cases: 25,042 (19,937 new)
• Positivity rate: 11.9% (-2)
• In hospital: 20,325 (+382)
• In ICU: 2,786 (+32)
• New deaths: 1,623 (297 new)

mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1324068883179950083

I love this bit in schools guidelines about wearing masks "face coverings should be worn by students and staff in secondary schools and further education colleges in communal spaces, outside of classrooms, where social distancing cannot be maintained." Presumably not being able to maintain social distancing in classrooms is magically safe.

why the heck have I just received an email about lockdown rules from a council where I have not lived for 15 years?

You can run but you can't hide? Seriously I have no idea but presumably they don't keep their details up to date.

I just had a little shock, a raft of photos from NY city cousins; 18 of them in one house for a dinner party. They are frequently very vocal in being clear that they are not fans of the wotsit. One is clinically very vulnerable and 3 are elderly. It looked like normal life. Do they not have any guidance at all against this sort of craziness over in United Bonkersland?

Nope!

Yet, a lot of schools are closed completely.

I suppose they would think our way round a bit perverse.

Despite what news shows they are much better about mask wearing than us, though.

I have photos of my nephew being hugged, high fived and hand shaken by baseball coaches...

@MRex is the wotsit your nickname for Trump?

Yes, sorry for any confusion.

@ancientgran apparently the playground doesn't count as communal space either according to the email we have.

Meanwhile, my high school daughter, has been wearing a face mask in all communal areas since the end of August and now as she's an S4-6, pupil in lessons too. They scan QR codes for the area they sit at lunch... Scotland.

Passing in a corroding has minimal risk. Being one meter away or 2 meters for 15 mins is a great risk.

What is the massive detriment to society of dc over 11 wearing masks for the day until this blows over?

Half of patients hospitalised in this study with Covid 19 had autoimmune antiphospholipid syndrome antibodies like in antiphospholipid syndrome. Hopefully some possible new treatment avenues for the clotting issues associated might come out of this research.

medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-covid-blood-clots.amp?__twitter_impression=true

stm.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/02/scitranslmed.abd3876

@NullcovoidNovember

Passing in a corroding has minimal risk. Being one meter away or 2 meters for 15 mins is a great risk.

What is the massive detriment to society of dc over 11 wearing masks for the day until this blows over?

There is none. Stupidity on the other hand is hugely detrimental to society.

Eg. Hungary has more cases than ever. There's a curfew, restrictions and borders are closed. But the supreme leader is a football fan, so there was a huge German-something football match 2 weeks ago where ppl from DE and surrounding countries were taken to Budapest in busses.

Cruelly unfair to actual wotsits, that.

[quote Choconuttolata]Half of patients hospitalised in this study with Covid 19 had autoimmune antiphospholipid syndrome antibodies like in antiphospholipid syndrome. Hopefully some possible new treatment avenues for the clotting issues associated might come out of this research.

medicalxpress.com/news/2020-11-covid-blood-clots.amp?__twitter_impression=true

stm.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/11/02/scitranslmed.abd3876[/quote]
Very interesting research, I look forward to seeing the results of the dipyridamole trial. There have been indications that low dose aspirin may help, which also fits with this.