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If Covid is going nowhere what is the plan for schools?

274 replies

Marcellemouse · 21/10/2020 19:41

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/covid-here-stay-even-develop-19095194
Just asked this on a different thread but no response.
Bearing in mind the above, at what point teachers be happy to teach a full class of DC?

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Coolieloach · 21/10/2020 20:16

I don’t think that’s a decision a teacher can make unless they choose to resign

SpringSunshineandTulips · 21/10/2020 20:19

Who knows. I’m not sure there is a plan until something happens. It’s carry on until we can’t really. Makes sense as no one knows what’s going to happen.

RunBackwards · 21/10/2020 20:19

Carry on as we are, with periods of closure/isolation as necessary, when the remote curriculum, which is a statutory requirement from tomorrow, will be utilised.

PotteringAlong · 21/10/2020 20:21

Teachers are happy to teach a full class of children though; what do you think is happening at the moment?

Lockdownfatigue · 21/10/2020 20:22

Well, they already are teaching a full class 🙄

Cookiecrisps · 21/10/2020 20:22

I am teaching a full class of children as are all my colleagues. We have been told to teach as normal - small groups around the teacher for extra support, sitting next to children to hear readers and mark work with them, no masks or visors allowed and no social dustsbcubv possible between staff and children in their bubble. I teach across a big bubble of 90 primary children. Whether I’m happy or not doesn’t come into it. We have no autonomy in my school.

What do you hope to get out of this thread?

flumposie · 21/10/2020 20:53

Erm, currently teaching classes of between 26 and 30.

NinetyNineRedBalloonsGoBy · 21/10/2020 20:55

Yep I teach 10 different classes of 30 kids a week. Business as usual in my secondary school.

OpheliasCrayon · 21/10/2020 20:56

I teach full classes. Happy. No issues. Accept the risk and go to work. Job done. What else should we do?

Marcellemouse · 21/10/2020 20:57

Teacher's on MN imply nightly that we'll be back to home learning before Christmas. Constantly posting about cases in schools, how they're all going to leave and then where will we be, etc. Makes you wonder what will happen as Covid isn't going to go away.

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TheHouseonHauntedHill · 21/10/2020 21:00

Supply teacher friend who has no teaching quals, very educated but is more about holding the dc or reading out work left than actual teaching, plugged into curriculum etc said the North West is utter carnage with teacher s isolating.. Dc.. Bad behaviour...

If this is what happens in secondary dd school and she has holding pen supply come in? What is the point of being in now ft?.
Surely, better ppe and systems in place, in school x days, off x days... Masks in lessons with extra breaks, ventilation by law... Allowed to wear warm clothes...
Drop fines for non attendance, pupils at risk assessed of course, keep work on line as present for pupils who are at home.

Keep it going albeit less than 100 % solid learning rather than having dc off m

ohthegoats · 21/10/2020 21:01

I'm teaching my normal class, today was doing cover in another class. Happy or not, there aren't other options at the moment.

ohthegoats · 21/10/2020 21:02

I would agree that behaviour has gone to shit. I'm in the south. We need half term desperately.

Letseatgrandma · 21/10/2020 21:06

@Marcellemouse

Teacher's on MN imply nightly that we'll be back to home learning before Christmas. Constantly posting about cases in schools, how they're all going to leave and then where will we be, etc. Makes you wonder what will happen as Covid isn't going to go away.
That’s not what I’ve seen teachers ‘imply nightly’.

Do you think teachers aren’t teaching full classes currently?

walksen · 21/10/2020 21:10

Teachers are already teaching full classes although in my school in the nw, the amount of kids off with an X meaning self isolating or awaiting tests have gone up again after settling down after the initial surge of tests for coughs colds.

Staff absence where I am has increased suddenly to between 20% to 30% the last 2 weeks and there are lots of supply being used to stay open.

At this rate most of the staff and students will have caught covid by Christmas so staff absence will settle down eventually. Most are back after their 10 or 14 days. Some staff are on their 3rd week of absence which does make me worry about them .

MillieVanilla · 21/10/2020 21:11

Well, after tonight they need to close.

As I knew would happen, child was sent home incredibly unwell with symptoms earlier this week. You guessed it, kid has covid.

They are in classes with my vulnerable boy.
What the hell is wrong with people that they send their kid in with obvious symptoms, like really obvious symptoms?
To me that should be a fine for gross stupidity.

I knew this would happen, same way as the same old faces get sent in with D&V and end up puking everywhere and passing it to the whole bloody school cos the parents don't think rules apply to them, also because the stupid "100% attendance" shite that's peddled from infants onwards.

I'm just hoping that because DS wasn't in school until yesterday morning he may be safe.
Sorry but enough now. This doesn't work. The numbers have gone mad since they opened schools, it's not workable.

Abelard40 · 21/10/2020 21:12

I’m a secondary history teacher. I am trying to reframe this positively. When we went back we had a class go off in the first week and I thought shit, we’ll be lucky to make it to half term without all year groups closed etc. In fact, that hasn’t happened and I’m amazed actually how well schools are doing. Long may it continue! The vast majority of teachers feel this way - I don’t post much on here but I do feel I need to cone on and redress the balance a bit!

MrsHamlet · 21/10/2020 21:13

I'm teaching full classes every day. That's my job. Contrary to the misleading public "information" campaign, class sizes haven't been reduced.
There are a lot of cases in schools. Most aren't being reported. Teachers, support staff, and students are getting ill - some of them very seriously.
Some staff will leave. The rest of them will keep buggering on, trying their best for the kids in very difficult circumstances.

RandallBoggs · 21/10/2020 21:14

My DD’s teacher is currently teaching a full class of 30. She works with them, keeps them happy, puts her arm around them...that woman, and all other teachers in her position, are saints and I could not begin to tell her how grateful I am for her and the TA.

Cookiecrisps · 21/10/2020 21:15

Well it will be interesting to see how many do leave at Christmas. Teachers were stuffed really if they missed the May resignation date as they’ve got to stay until Christmas.

With regards to constantly posting about cases, I think teachers want it out there since cases aren’t talked about in the news and the government are misling the general public with the Covid safe schools rubbish. Parents have a right to know what it’s like at the moment in their child’s school too.

Bailey0703 · 21/10/2020 21:15

I wouldn't. But not a teacher . No other industry expected to work in non Covid secure environment..: why should you be cannon fodder ? Long Covid is real (have two work colleagues with it 7 months after infection) .

trinity0097 · 21/10/2020 21:17

Attendance is very good in my school. Testing seems much quicker and accessible when needed than at the start of term. We are going out business as normally as can be expected. Still doing parents’ evenings for example and face to face not online.

We will remain fully open unless a case forces a group to be sent home. The government have zero intention of closing us and going to remote learning.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 21/10/2020 21:17

I've taught full classes for the past seven weeks. It's my job - it's what I'm employed to do. Your OP is bizarre Confused

Coldandwet123 · 21/10/2020 21:29

I've been teaching a class of over 30 for seven weeks.
I haven't had time to post nightly. Odd thread.

SmileEachDay · 21/10/2020 21:36

A more interesting question is “How many teachers are happy that average class sizes in the U.K. are so big”

That has more impact on children than Covid. But I bet you’ve never posted about that, have you OP?

I think it’s shit that there are 30 kids in all but one of my current classes. I’m not happy about that at all.

You should do something about it OP, rather than posting goady nonsense on MN.

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