Couples in established relationships have to socially distance

[avenueq]

in tier two and three, unless they can form a support bubble.
So that means no relationships between students. Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
Is that reasonable? I don't think it is.

It's not reasonable. Not at all.

It's ridiculous, unenforceable, and I doubt anyone will comply.

Totally ridiculous

It still says this and doesn't mention established relationships in the specific tier instructions:

You do not need to socially distance from anyone in your household, meaning the people you live with. You also do not need to socially distance from anyone in your legally-permitted support bubble if you are in one, or someone you’re in an established relationship with. If in the early stages of a relationship, you should take particular care to follow the guidance on social distancing

It's unreasonable when a certain special advisor can drive to a house he has only just decided to pay council tax on 500 miles away from his main home while infected with the virus for "childcare".

I can see some rapidly establishing relationships in student land!

One-night-established-relationships and the like

I wouldn't expect anyone to follow that and I doubt they expect anyone to follow it.

Have they stated that prostitution contravenes lockdown? Raided Leeds' infamous rape red light zone? No? Then properly consented relations should continue.

Downing Street says couples in coronavirus hotspots can't meet indoors
https://mol.im/a/8848073
Apologies for Daily Mail link

@PicsInRed

I wouldn't expect anyone to follow that and I doubt they expect anyone to follow it.

Have they stated that prostitution contravenes lockdown? Raided Leeds' infamous rape red light zone? No? Then properly consented relations should continue.

Ah but that's business Pics

Nobody will comply this. Totally pointless of them to even say it.

Utterly daft. How long do they expect couples who don't live together to be apart? And do they expect no one to form new relationships until there's an effective vaccine? That could mean some, slightly older women don't have the chance to have kids (if that's what they want, of course.)

I think England should have done what Scotland did and allowed couples as one of the exceptions to the rules. I love my parents, but rarely see them and they're not huggy types anyway. But it's totally different with a partner and they should realise that.

Ah but that's business Pics

Indeed, essential government business.

Laugh or you'll cry.

@Aquamarine1029

It's ridiculous, unenforceable, and I doubt anyone will comply.

This

People did comply first time around ( mostly) but I can't see that happening this time. It's like being in some sort of dystopian fantasy. I'm married but I'm thinking of my DDs 23 and 22 in flat shares. That is the time for fun, sex and finding relationships- not being made a criminal for seeing your boyfriend!

@avenueq

Downing Street says couples in coronavirus hotspots can't meet indoors [[https://mol.im/a/8848073]] Apologies for Daily Mail link

Guess that must be why dogging is trending on Twitter.

No, not reasonable. I think the vast majority of people are very tired of the government dictating their personal relationships. I was amazed actually at the level of compliance between March-May!

Perhaps they can meet in secluded spots with warm blankets and face masks?! (This is a joke!)

It's pretty much unenforceable anyway. No one knows what goes on in your home... Yet.

Been thinking about this. My boyfriend stayed with me as he's been furloughed for months and we are long distance. He's meant to be going back, but to another site which is in a different "tier". We aren't sure what to do.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves isn't outdoor exercise recommended?

Yes agree that people followed the rules first time around. Now seems only the older ones are. Students at university are universally ignoring the rules even after testing positive!

Also around us...still see people visiting neighbours houses. Whole thing utterly unenforceable and I think the revolt from Manchester will gradually grow.

Govt doesn't have a strategy apart from keeping locking us down. Labour no better..they just want to lock us down harder and longer. No one has an idea as to what to do

DD is 17, and has been with her boyfriend for a year. They are in close contact at school because of seating plans so would have to isolate in the case of a close contact developing the virus anyway. We're in Tier One so they are allowed to meet anyway (once they're both out of isolation anyway) but having not been within two metres of each other from May to August, I am not going to stop her from seeing him.

What do you think people have been doing in Manchester since August?

It is bollocks.

@Aquamarine1029

It's ridiculous, unenforceable, and I doubt anyone will comply.

I agree.

It might suit some people though.