Couples in established relationships have to socially distance

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in tier two and three, unless they can form a support bubble.
So that means no relationships between students. Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
Is that reasonable? I don't think it is.

@PopcornPugs

It isn’t as easy as just moving in together for a lot of couples. My partner has his child to care for and I have mine. Our families are not ready to be “blended”

Yes to this. My partner abd I are committed, have been together three years and live near each other. Not going to live together because must put children first and ensure stability. It works well, and would also make absolutely no difference to virus spreading if we lived together.

Normally on MN you’d get leapt on for being irresponsible and moving a partner in 😂

@SoloMummy two students in shared houses in two different uni towns three hours apart, contracts signed last November- how could they overcome that exactly?

A circuit breaker lockdown would be very short term, would make a big difference to the number of infections and would give us a bit of breathing space to fix test and trace (I wouldn't support it unless it had that sort of a concrete aim

I live in a tier one area - although even our infection rates are increasing again and we have a high elderly population so that's worrying. Many people where I am would support a short, hard lockdown even though we technically have as much freedom as possible. The reason being that we need to get this virus under control everywhere before we end up with many more people dying - like we saw in April, except it will be worse because not only is it winter, but we also have flu season starting.

My friend is in the situation where her partner lives in another part of the country. She's near me in tier one and he's in tier two. At the moment they see each other once a month or so, but aren't able to kiss or hug or do all the things those of us who are able to live with our husbands/wives/partners can do. They aren't less committed, aren't teenagers or young, a year for them at our age is a significant amount of time in a relationship. If we shut down now, short and sharp, people like my friend and her partner will be able to get their relationship back to normal quicker.

Unless you are a sheep or want to behave like one why on earth would you let anyone police your relationship?

We complied last time and didn't see each other at all for weeks. We're not doing it this time. I'm not being punished for my domestic arrangements.

@SoloMummy could you please explain why living separately but seeing each other increases the spread of the virus? I just don’t see how this is.

@Requinblanc

Unless you are a sheep or want to behave like one why on earth would you let anyone police your relationship?

I don't think the rules apply to livestock.

Anyone who uses 'sheep' as an insult knows they're onto a losing argument.

I will have clear conscience. Shame you won't be the same. Though tbh your sound so self centred that you probably will have and it will be those innocents you've infected as a result of not following the guidance who will live with the regrets of their loved ones dying.

This is absolutely hilarious

@solomummy
It's just that simple to 'move in together?'
Have you not heard about how difficult it is at the moment to buy & sell houses? And how during lockdown it was pretty much impossible?

And some people in relationships who don't live together have jobs in different areas- should they just resign?

You're being completely ridiculous.

[quote booboo24]@solomummy clear conscience here still in a tier 1 . I'm working from home full time, one in uni choosing to do that from home for now, another one in school mixing with 200 others daily. Not seeing my mum and dad, sister etc indoors even though we sre still allowed (jealous???!) I've done and will do my bit. Hope you don't trip over your halo though anyday soon.....[/quote]
I didn't realise you were playing tier trumps as well as at roulette with the lives of others!

But eh. You've decided regardless of rules you won't be following them. Could have made adjustments to allow you not to break them, but have chosen not to. In your circumstances your eldest could "look after" your home, and school aged child have been moved if you are such a love sick individual who cannot possibly survive a short time away from the bf. But no, you'd rather break rules cos you're oh so special eh!

Long may your tier 1 status last. Likewise mine. 😉

[quote poshme]@solomummy
It's just that simple to 'move in together?'
Have you not heard about how difficult it is at the moment to buy & sell houses? And how during lockdown it was pretty much impossible?

And some people in relationships who don't live together have jobs in different areas- should they just resign?

You're being completely ridiculous. [/quote]
I'd they cannot facilitate this, then that's their choice. Live by and live by the law and guidelines and the consequences.

[quote WouldBeGood]@SoloMummy could you please explain why living separately but seeing each other increases the spread of the virus? I just don’t see how this is.[/quote]
They're going in and out of different tiers, areas, facilities. Increasing risks to one another and society.

But they could be doing exactly the same if they lived together?

I think Solomummy is just a bit bored and has come on here to stir things up so I think just ignore from now on. To everyone else with view points either side of the argument I fully understand where you're coming from, it's such a tough one as it's not social contact as such, seeing your partner, it's different

If they cannot facilitate this, then that's their choice

So how do you suppose the pp's student dd, who you said needed to "get a leg over", could facilitate moving in together? They're students, possibly in different universities, cities, low on money, etc.

Thank god fucking idiots like you are in the minority.

Fking ridiculous and unreasonable. Like the rest of it.

And yes it is that simple. Love conquering all etc. Unless these hurdles mean that they don't actually put this relationship that high up the list.

Dd and her boyfriend have been together over a years.
They are 18. They are both at different universities just starting courses, living in new flats with bee flat area.

Their relationship is very important to them but they are not at a stage where they should be moving in together in order to continue seeing one another!!! Not should they have to.

The BBC questions bit is saying partners can't meet up indoors but since they have got another question involving care and support to a vulnerable person wrong, I wouldn't rely on them for correct information.

SoloMummy seems like a troll to me. 'Get her leg over?' what a classy woman you are.

SoloMummy seems like a troll to me. 'Get her leg over?' what a classy woman you are.

If that's all she thinks relationships are then no wonder she's solo.

I live in a tier 1 area (and my children are in school in this area). I neither work or do my shopping in this area, I do both in the tier 2 area that’s adjacent. My dp lives in that area but works in the next (also t2) area along. If we lived together, we’d still have to travel into the other areas for work and school. The only difference would be our 4 teenagers (2 each) would have to share bedrooms as we have been unable to win the lottery and purchase a 5 bedroom house since March. Must try harder!

@booboo24

I think Solomummy is just a bit bored and has come on here to stir things up so I think just ignore from now on. To everyone else with view points either side of the argument I fully understand where you're coming from, it's such a tough one as it's not social contact as such, seeing your partner, it's different

They're bfs/gfs not partners. Nothing more if not living together. They're not partnering in any meaningful context. Don't confuse the two.

Talk about splitting hairs

I see you have no answer for eg student couples

@Aragog

And yes it is that simple. Love conquering all etc. Unless these hurdles mean that they don't actually put this relationship that high up the list.

Dd and her boyfriend have been together over a years.
They are 18. They are both at different universities just starting courses, living in new flats with bee flat area.

Their relationship is very important to them but they are not at a stage where they should be moving in together in order to continue seeing one another!!! Not should they have to.

If they've decided they're not at a stage for anything more then quite simply they need to put up with the separation don't they!

If their love is so real and deep it will surely stand the rest of covid!

It's really not that extreme an expectation to ask people who are not at a stage of being partners that should be biding by the guidance. That simple.

And let's be blunt, many of these bf and gf relationships wouldn't make it through covid anyway, wtf should there be any special allowances made for these dalliances that are being presented as love's young dream?

Likelihood is many of these "relationships" that have gone to unis will be having other dalliances a way in between the lovesickness!