Couples in established relationships have to socially distance

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in tier two and three, unless they can form a support bubble.
So that means no relationships between students. Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
Is that reasonable? I don't think it is.

I really wouldn't bother trying to explain any type of relationship to Solo, she clearly doesn't understand unless its a quick 'leg over' hence the user name!

@Floatyboat

You can still have sex just not in a private dwelling. I don't see the massive issue to be honest.

And exactly does one have sex while social distancing and keeping 2m away from your partner?

*how exactly

@HugeAckmansWife

Umm.. Because we can't all afford to book into a hotel every few weeks? And because its not just about having sex. I want to sit and cuddle while we watch a box set or film, not talking and maintaining a full on conversation like you do on zoom. We rarely video chat because post 9pm when the kids are in bed I'm not really up for a long chat, but if he could come round and just be here that would be amazing.

OK, so moving in together isn't what you want.

So accept your decision and abide by the law and guidance.

You've should have as a consequence of your decision accepted that you're going to be missing those cuddles and companionship.

YOU HAVE CHOSEN THIS.
Own that and stop making excuses about why you won't abide the guidelines and laws.

OK, so moving in together isn't what you want.

So accept your decision and abide by the law and guidance.

You've should have as a consequence of your decision accepted that you're going to be missing those cuddles and companionship.

YOU HAVE CHOSEN THIS.
Own that and stop making excuses about why you won't abide the guidelines and laws.

You do realise that many couples in this situation will have made the decision pre covid that moving in together isn't the right thing for their circumstances. They did not make the decision knowing that this year they would be banned from getting closer than 2m to each other. So unless they had a crystal ball, to forsee the future, no they did not "choose this".

Anyway, as you will have seen from my post last night, the actual guidelines do still appear to allow established couples who don't live together to not socially distance, so all of your arguments about people having chosen this, that they must just accept this etc, don't matter.

The rules say established couples don't have to socially distance whatever 'rulez' SoloMummy thinks she has read.

If the rule had changed about social distancing there would be an updated version of that document which there isn't.

Oh do piss off Solo. I didn't choose to be a single parent, not living with the father of my children. That was his choice to disappear with OW. As the pp said, noone has chosen their current circumstances knowing that there'd be a pandemic and whilst living without companionship is doable for a limited and finite period. It is disproportionate to go without that for an indefinite period, especially when, in the name of the economy, far more 'risky' behaviour is allowed. Leaving aside all the practical difficulties of just 'moving in', you'd be the first, I suspect, to criticise if I 'foisted' a step parent on my children. I absolute own my decisions and choices because I am satisfied with my own risk assessment and rate that far higher than blind obedience to nonsense.

If you are in an "established relationship" the 'sex ban' still applies if your partner is not in your household or bubble. So if you use parents as childcare there is no exemption.

Mixing like this is imo totally unreasonable.
People have had since March to plan for this.

Not in tier 1 it doesn't im afraid solo!

OK, im really feeling sorry for those who think its not a big deal to ask people to go a year or more without sex in order to protect the lives of strangers - how shit must your sex life be to think this is not an unreasonable demand ?!

Socially unacceptable and abhorrent behaviour that will no doubt contribute to deaths.

Since when was seeing your partner socially unacceptable and abhorrent? I really hope @SoloMummy is just being delibrately goady and doesn't really think its ok to keep couples apart from indefinite periods of time.

It's not about sex!! That's nice and all but many people go years without that. It's nice (and awesome with my dp) but it's the general companionship that matters and it doesn't matter Solo how long we've had to 'plan it'.. Coabiting is not right for us or our children. You haven't answered my question.. Specifically, how are me and my dp increasing the risk by more than 1 person given the info I gave in my previous posts.. Or would common sense get in the way of all the frothing?? I wouldn't look over on the Relationship board.. There's a whole threadload of us being abhorrent and anti-social on there.

Ah but what if you have to use your parents for childcare so that you can have sex. Especially if you have to go to a hotel to do so?! Mind, of course going to a hotel is frowned upon as its indoors and you should only mingle outdoors.

I don't think advocating for alfresco sex from 'un established' couples will end too well, tbh Imagine the carnage, if every partner who did not live with their OH, was to go shagging in bushes or whatever.

@don't think you can accuse teenagers and you g people

Well yes, its not all about the sex. And many people cope without for years when single etc. But let's face it, sex is pretty good and important if you are in a relationship. The idea of enforcing celibacy on unmarried couples does seem terribly judgemental- hey, if your not prepared to get married/live together, you don't deserve sex!

There's no way if I wasn't living with DH I'd just accept going a year or more without shagging/kissing. Id be firmly in the "let the grannies die" camp if I was expected to go without for that long.

(Appreciating that I'm living with my other half.)

Well things certainly have changed here A year ago a single parent on here would have had her arse handed to her on a plate on here for moving a partner in too soon.

I imagine SoloMummy would be happy to mandate a sex ban Covid or no Covid to be honest. 😉 Also, no answer to why a couple living apart pose more of a risk than a couple that work outside the home and have children in bubbles of a hundred? Your hubby/wife/child could easily kill an 'innocent' through having more extended contact than a lot of couples.

And an not criticising the latter as understand people have to work/be educated. But there's no significant reason that a couple who live apart pose anymore risk if they WFH/isolated than the average family or single parent with kids.