Couples in established relationships have to socially distance

[avenueq]

in tier two and three, unless they can form a support bubble.
So that means no relationships between students. Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
Is that reasonable? I don't think it is.

You can if you live together. It's just mixing of households on those tiers.

According to simple politics, those in established relationships do not need to socially distance in any tier.

Unenforceable, unsustainable and judging by the comments not supported by the majority of the public. The government strategy (if there is one) will only work if people buy into it; nonsense like this just undermines it.

DH works away during the week (military) and comes home on weekends. As far as I know, the armed forces are just getting on with things, after all, this is DH’s home, not some military base!

My boyfriend and I both live alone so are in a bubble but if that weren't the case I would still be seeing him as normal. We carried on seeing each other right through the first lockdown when bubbles weren't allowed. Knowing I would see him each week was pretty much the only thing that kept my spirits up. I hope people don't comply with this, at best it's ridiculous and at worst it's cruel.

Sorry, not going to happen. Life of hard enough as it is. I’m simply not going to give up being with my partner. No way.

Ridiculous article from the Mail. Most couples living separately will be in a support bubble. Those few that aren't will slip under the radar.

During shielding , you were supposed to sleep in a separate room , use a different bathroom ( or clean after every use ) and not be in close contact with anyone from your own household , even if you had been married / living together. This is why I shielded with my dh when he was advised to do we didn't have to do it .

My son and his girlfriend (been together nearly 2 years) decided to only see each other monthly to concentrate on their A levels (bless!). We are tier 1 and she is tier 2 (but v similar case numbers). I've told him he can't go there at half term, but trying to figure out if she can visit us or not. I thought no, but after responses on this thread I am not sure? I don't want to be reckless but really feel for them that have been trying to be studious and sensible...

Technically, it has never been 'allowed', as people who didn't share a household have been asked to social distance since like March.

@DumplingsAndStew

Technically, it has never been 'allowed', as people who didn't share a household have been asked to social distance since like March.

Yes is has, it was allowed when one of the couple was a single adult household when support bubbles were introduced, and then when the rule of 6 was introduced something was added to the guidelines saying the people in an established relationship don't have to social distance from each other.

@Jaxhog

For crying out loud, anyone would think you were being asked to stay away from other people forever! It's for the short term, at most a year in total.

You need to be more creative in how you interact with people - there are loads of technologies to help, and you can still meet in parks, etc. (Apart from tier 3)

It isn't bollocks. It's the law and will save lives. Don't you care about anyone else?

Short term = whole year. Do you even hear yourself?

What do you think people have been doing all this time?
Well I guess that’s the issue now, people have had enough and have stopped following the advice since the Cummings and goings fiasco

@RichardMarxisinnocent

Sorry, was referring to this example Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
I also didn't realise there were exemptions for established couples in your Rule of Six, as they don't apply here.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@RichardMarxisinnocent

Sorry, was referring to this example Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
I also didn't realise there were exemptions for established couples in your Rule of Six, as they don't apply here.[/quote]
It applies in that example too (assuming they are in an established relationship), people in established relationships who don't live together don't need to social distance from each other no matter how many people they each live with. The guidelines read:

"You do not need to socially distance from anyone in your household, meaning the people you live with. You also do not need to socially distance from anyone in your legally-permitted support bubble if you are in one, or someone you’re in an established relationship with. If in the early stages of a relationship, you should take particular care to follow the guidance on social distancing."

It's isn't linked to the rule of 6 in any way, it was just introduced at the same time as the rule of 6.

Where exactly have they changed the guidance/law on 'established relationships'?

Now seems only the older ones are. Students at university are universally ignoring the rules even after testing positive!

Not the case here. Those complying and those not complying span all age groups!

Certainly there are lots of older people still visiting one another's homes and not just two single household bubbles. I know of a number.

And I know some students complying with all the rules.

And of course it's nonsense that people in established relationships can't meet unless one of them is in a single household. Lots of younger people live in flat shares, not just students. They should be allowed to meet their partners!! Utterly ridiculous that they can't.

18y Dd and her boyfriend complied the first time round. We won't make them do it again. It's not fair. They've been taken over a year, ridiculous to now expect them to stay 2m apart for weeks on end!!

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@RichardMarxisinnocent

Sorry, was referring to this example Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
I also didn't realise there were exemptions for established couples in your Rule of Six, as they don't apply here.[/quote]
Actually I think I might have misunderstood your post, were you meaning the rule of 6 doesn't apply where you live? I read it as meaning the rule of 6 doesn't apply to the scenario you quoted. If I misunderstood I apologise.

t's for the short term, at most a year in total.

Do you seriously think it's acceptable to expect couples in an established relationship to not meet up together indoors, and without SDing, for a year???? Seriously?!

I'm shocked anyone would think that was acceptable.

@RichardMarxisinnocent

Yes, I meant your Rule of Six doesn't apply where I am, hence I wasn't fully informed of what the rules and exemptions are/were.

The "established relationship" exemption apparently doesn't apply anymore

@Jaxhog

For crying out loud, anyone would think you were being asked to stay away from other people forever! It's for the short term, at most a year in total.

You need to be more creative in how you interact with people - there are loads of technologies to help, and you can still meet in parks, etc. (Apart from tier 3)

It isn't bollocks. It's the law and will save lives. Don't you care about anyone else?

Out of interest what's the longest you've been without human physical contact this year?

@avenueq

The "established relationship" exemption apparently doesn't apply anymore

But where are you getting this idea from?

The Daily Mail article posted below

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/indoor-sex-ban-tier-2-couples-living-apart-a4571925.html