Couples in established relationships have to socially distance

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in tier two and three, unless they can form a support bubble.
So that means no relationships between students. Or between say a woman with two adult kids living at home and a man who lives with his mother, or in a shared flat.
Is that reasonable? I don't think it is.

It’s ridiculous and no one will obey it.

[quote avenueq]@SoloMummy like that's what it's about - "getting her leg over" - seriously!?

And do you really think it's that simple to move in together for many couples in this position?

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Well since this started in March these poor separated bfs and gfs have had 7 months to arrange an alternative if they wish this to become partners and not spend Oct 20 to possibly April may 21 distanced.

And yes it is that simple. Love conquering all etc. Unless these hurdles mean that they don't actually put this relationship that high up the list.

High enough up the list to risk the lives of others but not move in?

@booboo24

I complied fully March to June with not seeing my fiance (together 5 years) but this time round, with restrictions likely to be for 6 months, no way, not again! We are 80 miles apart, he has his mum with him now as she has dementia, he works full time but is also her carer (along side rhe ones who come in during the day), I have 2 children one of which is 18. I will continue to obey every other rule to the letter if we move up to tier 2 but not that one, we are and will continue to operate as one household. I won't see the rest of my family indoors which will be hard as I'm so close to them, especially my mum who lives round the corner (luckily) but my partner no

If you wish to operate as a household then you should have moved in together.

You had options but instead are choosing to decide that you like all these other buffoons are the exception to the rules going forward.

It isn’t as easy as just moving in together for a lot of couples. My partner has his child to care for and I have mine. Our families are not ready to be “blended”

Seeing as the World Bank Covid19 project has an end date of March 2025, I doubt very much that people are going to never have sex with anybody outside of their household for nearly 5 years.

What next, if you conceive a child with someone you don’t live, you’ll both be imprisoned?

@SoloMummy your comments are really unreasonable.

Why does moving in with someone decrease the risk of the spread of covid?

If someone has a partner who lives and cares for someone with dementia or a disability then that someone could also offer care and support to the person with dementia or a disability and the carer - and that is legally allowed ( for anyone in that situation).

Well since this started in March these poor separated bfs and gfs have had 7 months to arrange an alternative if they wish this to become partners and not spend Oct 20 to possibly April may 21 distanced.

You really think it's that simple for everyone? There could be houses or flats which need to be sold, a new house to be found or bought, mortgage to be arranged, and for the first part of lockdown much of that would have been difficult to do. In addition, for those with children who aren't yet ready to blend families it really isn't as easy as "just move in together".

Out of interest, what/where is this prior exemption for non-cohabiting established couples?

@solomummy Get off your high horse, of course he's high on my list but so also are my 2 children, his child, his mum, maybe your name should be soloandbitter?

[quote booboo24]@solomummy Get off your high horse, of course he's high on my list but so also are my 2 children, his child, his mum, maybe your name should be soloandbitter?[/quote]
😂😂

@DumplingsAndStew

Out of interest, what/where is this prior exemption for non-cohabiting established couples?

I can't find it now, it was on the Gov website- but this is a news story about it:

www.mylondon.news/news/health/london-coronavirus-after-6-long-18988498

It is yet another bollocks rule of that is just there to be broken.

@PopcornPugs

It isn’t as easy as just moving in together for a lot of couples. My partner has his child to care for and I have mine. Our families are not ready to be “blended”

Then you need to accept the consequences of you CHOOSING not to live together. And that should be within the constraints of the law and guidelines.

@cathyandclare

Thank you. Googled the wording in that article and found this:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing

That was really shortlived if it's no longer valid.

Well luckily the police don’t have the resources to knock on a few million doors to see if non-cohabitants are having sex. They don’t even come out for a burglary or assault.

[quote booboo24]@solomummy Get off your high horse, of course he's high on my list but so also are my 2 children, his child, his mum, maybe your name should be soloandbitter?[/quote]
You could have made the best of the situation instead of being yet another person contributing to the further rise of covid because you're the exception.

I'm not at all bitter.

I will have clear conscience. Shame you won't be the same. Though tbh your sound so self centred that you probably will have and it will be those innocents you've infected as a result of not following the guidance who will live with the regrets of their loved ones dying.

Provided they maintain the support bubble principle, I think I would probably lump this in with all the other difficult choices people have to make at the moment about who to see or not see. Ie I wouldn't see it as any harder a decision than any decision on who to bubble with.

It sucks either way

Or hold on, that's still the most recent documented information from the main Coronavirus page on the GovUK website

@annabel85

Why can't people just do as they're asked? Sick of Brits complaining. We're in a pandemic.

Because those who are in the government whether they are MPs, special advisors, public health officials and members of their families do the fuck they want so we don't have leaders showing us good examples.

Especially now that I’m also expected to send my children into the school viral soup every day and pretend that’s somehow fine. I think the cognitive dissonance would send me over the edge.

Or you can work in Tesco all day, can go out shopping, get bladdered in a pub or eat out to help out, but you can't see your boyfriend. This is where they lose people.

@solomummy clear conscience here still in a tier 1 . I'm working from home full time, one in uni choosing to do that from home for now, another one in school mixing with 200 others daily. Not seeing my mum and dad, sister etc indoors even though we sre still allowed (jealous???!) I've done and will do my bit. Hope you don't trip over your halo though anyday soon.....

Some people have enough brain cells to work out for themselves what it is and isn't risky behaviour that might cause infection in innocents. Others don't and think Boris's rule of 6 is safer.

[quote DumplingsAndStew]@cathyandclare

Thank you. Googled the wording in that article and found this:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing/coronavirus-covid-19-meeting-with-others-safely-social-distancing

That was really shortlived if it's no longer valid.[/quote]
Thanks. The truth is no-one not even the government know the details of all the rules!

I did assume that the 'no need to socially distance from your partners in established relationships' would make us exempt but it looks like that isn't the case sadly. I hate the thought of breaking the rules and was hoping they would adopt the same strategy as Scotland did but it looks unlikely now doesn't it 😒