Good News Thread - part 2

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Thank you to those who have contributed to the good news thread over the past few weeks. We are at 40 pages so here is a new one to continue sharing good news stories :)

If you go to the Twitter account ‘coronavirusgoodnews’ they are reporting that different dosing regime shouldn’t hold up approval and more good vaccine news is on its way.

Whitty talking about turning the corner on number of cases.

I feel I need clarity on vaccine, it’s muddling how I feel. I hope there is some imminent.

@chri55ie

If you go to the Twitter account ‘coronavirusgoodnews’ they are reporting that different dosing regime shouldn’t hold up approval and more good vaccine news is on its way.

Emotional rollercoaster or what

Thank you all- this is what I was hoping.
So it sounds like it’s US companies picking holes in it- suppose that’s not surprising!

So they may tinker with doses to find optimum I guess, but could still begin with current doses, as it’s better than no dose!

Also (gosh I must get on with tea and not drop down a vaccine rabbit hole!) prof Adrian Hill has confirmed it wasn’t a dosing error more as a result of limited supply. Also MERS vaccine works best with a low dose.,,think that’s what he said. So much more positive. Wish the press wouldn’t print such scare mongering news

I think the main difference here is that we (the general public) are hearing all the information at a much earlier stage than usual. I have faith that our regulators will only pass a good vaccine.

There definitely is a question as to why most of the dissenting comments seem to be from the US. I've reading sniffy comments from commentators in the US for months. There's financial pressure on pharma to push to be first. It is unfortunate that the vaccine development has been a nationalist venture. Look what's happened with the Russian Sputnik vaccine.

However, further scrutiny must be a good thing even though we are all desperate.

Just seen this:-

apple.news/AEMvLeZ6ORoGaeAf2XFu4cQ

From i newspaper; Why we shouldn't be concerned about the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine's 90% effectiveness rate

Great article! thanks @tobee

Wish sky news (and I assume other MSM) wouldn’t report such scare mongering stuff without explaining it properly.

Once we have a vaccine approved it’s going to be soooo important that people have confidence and trust enough to get it.

Yeah quite a lot of the people writing about this are coming from a financial point of view.

Most members of the public, I'd hazard, want to know that a vaccine is safe, then effective. Financial considerations probably come fairly low down when we have the NHS. Although the government obviously will be interested in cost.

Oxford jab has been formally sent to the regulators.

Poor MHRA, you wait for ages and then two come along at once.

It is certainly all quite rushed. It may be standard practice that some people get a lower dose in trials because they are running out of the stuff but it does make it hard then to compare as I think it was 2 of 30 who got the lower dose for one of their jabs and I believe those who had the better success rate were all under 50. It would have been nicer if they had age as a key factor and ensured the same number got a half does who were over 50 as under perhaps?

www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national-news/18900697.oxfords-90-vaccine-finding-only-younger-age-groups/ I know there were a lot of people in the trials so cannot now remember where the 30 and 28 come from that I remembered. I think it was the numbers who got CV or were exposed to it or something or may be I remembered those figures wrongly.

okay, I remembered the radio programme incorrectly from yesterday. Ignore my 30...
BBC says "Overall, there were 30 cases of Covid in people who had two doses of the vaccine and 101 cases in people who received a dummy injection. The researchers said it worked out at 70% protection, which is better than the seasonal flu jab."

It was from the above that i had it that 30 people got CV19 in the trial group where they had 2 doses.

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a breakdown of that 30 figure and it was something like 27 in the 2 full dose group and 3 in the 1.5 dose group.

Another potential treatment to be trialled in the UK www.itv.com/news/2020-11-27/covid-uk-trial-to-look-at-inhaled-steroid-to-treat-coronavirus-at-home

R number below one in UK www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55105285
Finally our lockdown is showing results.

Guardian reporting Pfizer vaccinations could start in 10 days

I saw that! It popped up just after we booked flights! (Going away in August, it’s a calculated risk as it looks like things will have settled by then)

@feelingverylazytoday

R number below one in UK www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55105285 Finally our lockdown is showing results.

This is great news. Especially since more is open than first lockdown.

MarshaBradyo and proves that it's possible to get it below 1 with schools open.

And with it being winter rather than spring/summer, despite it being more challenging in the cold weather.

I really noticed the turn in mood in media with regards the vaccine. What I think is that it's partly a strategy to get clicks or sell newspapers. You tell people, this is really really amazing news - they're happy, they click on the article to feel a warm fuzzy glow. A couple of quiet days later, you start up chatter about how it might not be all that great and there might be delays and it might not be the magic bullet and people are anxious and what do they do? Click on the story. It's very clever, really.

I have never thought any vaccine is going to make this entire virus disappear so I am going to be stubbornly optimistic about it. I have confidence in the Oxford team. I think even if it was only 60% effective, that is going to make a massive difference to death rates and the rate of spread in future winters.

That’s a really good insight Adventures. You’re right, it is the way the media works. Even the Broadsheets.

There is some talk about how if some vaccines are more suitable for the younger age groups then that would be OK as could use for the majority and the others for the older groups so that could work OK

Apparently that happens already in e.g. flu vaccines anyway. Also it would be a yearly jab.

Seen stuff about it being rolled out in my area from next weekend! Exciting.

Yes that seems to happen with lots of stuff I noticed Wishingchair same with the Christmas story. First the initial excitement "People can meet in groups" then on to the "How terrible / people need to do X..." stuff...same with schools "Schools to reopen how exciting" Then "will they / won't they / how terrible it will be" Same with summer holidays.

It is exhausting.