Good News Thread - part 2

[KitKatastrophe]

Thank you to those who have contributed to the good news thread over the past few weeks. We are at 40 pages so here is a new one to continue sharing good news stories :)

The Express is saying results from oxford expected today fingers crossed

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I just looked up the express article and it seems to be saying Oxford will release phase 2 trial results today?? Am I reading that right? That would be annoying! Come on phase 3!

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1361893/covid-vaccine-biontech-astrazeneca-britain-oxford

It’s today !! Robust immune response including in over 70s. On the news at the mo. Don’t have phase 3 results yet tho.

Easier to produce than the other vaccines so can be scaled up more quickly .

Yeah just came to post. Want to know the rest now!!!

www.bbc.com/news/health-54993652

I am sooooo impatient to see their phase 3 results!!!

Me too. Even that small announcement this morning made me feel excitement. God hope it’s good news soon!

So exciting !!! What do you ladies think about all these anti vaxers saying it has not been tested enough, made too quick etc they are driving me mad

Good news so far from Astrozeneca, but yes, just more info from their phase 2. I strongly suspect there has been government pressure to update...

This is all such good news so exciting!

It's a paper following on from an earlier announcement.

I wonder whether Oxford's decision to have a smaller control group has slowed things down. They had only 10000 controls. If the vaccine is highly effective, mostly the control group will contract the virus, it could take a long time for 75 ( or 150 for full results) to get infected.

So many times during the pandemic people have said to me 'thanks you've made me feel better' because I've focussed on positive side of things, when so many people seem to give up and just think the worst of everything.
I believe in a small way I've been able to help other people due to this.

@wildbarnet I'm not too concerned

@cathyandclare

It's a paper following on from an earlier announcement.

I wonder whether Oxford's decision to have a smaller control group has slowed things down. They had only 10000 controls. If the vaccine is highly effective, mostly the control group will contract the virus, it could take a long time for 75 ( or 150 for full results) to get infected.

Isn’t it 10000 here though and then on top of that trials running in other countries?

I think it's 10000 controls overall and 20000 getting the vaccine ( or 13000/26000 if they've recruited more)

Oxford have gone for 2:1 vaccines against controls. The others were equally split. So, if the vaccines are effective ( which they seem to be) Oxford could take longer to hit the number of infections needed to unblind.

I'm not in any way saying this is bad, just postulating that it's the reason it's taking a while. With a positive spin- if the vaccine didn't work surely they'd have had 75 people infected across the whole group by now!!!

This is interesting on the protocols.

blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/09/21/the-vaccine-protocols

Argh good news but was blowing for phase 3 data this week.... would they have released this now if phase 3 was coming this week too...? Trying to manage my expectations as the suspense is unreal now!

Andrew Pollard said before Xmas, but he may be trying to manage expectation!!

Argh I'm quite disappointed, I thought we would get the phase three results this week. It seems like we might be waiting a while?

I think it could be a good call having a big announcement saying it’s safe first before announcing efficacy as safety is what the naysayers are shouting about with the other two vaccines.

My London trust have said we are likely to start vaccinations 1 Dec. Will find out more.
Sorry if I posted this twice - can’t see original post.

My London trust have said we are likely to start vaccinations 1 Dec

Wow, that’s soon

I happened to be in a pharmacy meeting yesterday - they are developing strategy for administration. It won’t be mandatory.