Would anyone support another national lockdown?

[RubyandBen]

Same as the last one. Schools, non essential shops, hospitality etc. stretching on for a few months. If yes, can I ask what are your personal circumstances?

@Stuckinnow

No - what would be the point. As soon as we open up again, the virus spreads. And there is an inevitability about this that we need to wake up to. It's not going anywhere, lockdown was only make sure the NHS isn't overwhelmed - not to stop people catching the virus. I will not support stopping the lives and NHS treatment of younger people to prevent a virus which almost always is dangerous to the very old. It doesn't mean their lives are expendable (before the hysterical finger pointers jump in) but younger lives and health really matter too. People have lost perspective IMO.

This lockdown/circuit breaker is to make sure the NHS isn't overwhelmed, that threat hasn't mysteriously vanished!

Absolutely not. And I would not comply.

Definitely not if it went on for months. The social and economic harms would be devastating. I would be happy with a 2 week circuit break over half term but only if proper support packages were provided for affected industries, workers and families.

According to the daily mail just now Boris Johnson has made it clear that we won't have another lockdown !
I'm disappointed that Starmer did that speech yesterday about the 'circuit breaker ' as it just looks as if his jumped on a band wagon in order to look good. Surely better to wait and see if the tier systems works first ? Give it a bit of a chance?
I know all the arguments for and against another one , but it's becoming too ' tit for tat' and I don't think that it would get much support anyway : schools shutting again after half term would be the last straw for too many people.
I haven't the answers here , but it feels as another lockdown would mean a big ' u turn ' and I don't think the government want to just now.
It's such a dilemma though and I have listened to all the arguments about this so I can see all sides of this and I know people who have died of it too, so I do understand why people feel the need for another one.

This government are the masters of U turns,

I know about u turns! They have done them of course /
They do them all the time , but Keir Starmer yesterday just managed to piss people off with that speech and probably now made people less likely to back another one. That's how I've seen it and the parents at my school are very anti another one too. Most people are.

80’sweregreat.

My experience is total opposite

Starmer made a master stroke and reacted to science unlike Boris. Boris is now on a hook
People are more likely to back one.
Most people l know are very pro lockdown.

Look at what’s happening in Derry. Why is England any different?

It could just be where I live ( essex) but nobody is backing a circuit breaker at all! I'm really on the fence : I'm lucky that if we did have one it wouldn't impact me as much as someone else and I still get my wages but so far everyone is pretty anti and they would be impacted negatively by more weeks stuck at home.
Our figures are low here too.

That must be it then.😊

We’re about to be moved into the highest tier. It’s quite scary

the80sweregreat

They will be negatively impacted if we don't control the virus, just wait til they can't be seen in A&E.

Totally understand if your in a tier three area ( or about to be) I do get why people want another lockdown , but there just isn't the support for it where I am.
They won't comply I'm sure if it :(
As I said, I'm on the fence. I can see all sides. It is scary.
(Plus if Boris Johnson were to 'u turn ' now I think he will be toast with any right wing press support and he knows this)
Not unless he can talk himself out of it..
Any NHS employee must be scared too.
I do understand all sides : I know that we need to protect the NHS and why it's been mooted as a good idea but many just don't! It is a dilemma.

Yes - 4 - 6 weeks and it should be more stringent than the last time with the military reinforcing the police.

What would help is some unity. All the messaging is so confused.

If we are going to lock down then everyone affected needs to be sure they’ll be supported financially if they need to be.

I’d support two weeks but no more. I’ll just go back to seeing people after that no matter what.

Are people being deliberately obtuse when they say ‘what’s the point, cases will go up after lockdown anyway’.

Quick thought:

It is 6 weeks into the future, how many cases do we have in each scenario?

A) Lockdown for four weeks, opened up for two.

B) Kept going with restrictions which damage our economy anyway but don’t actually reduce cases.

And stop bleating about ‘hardship’. Do you have food, even if it is from a food bank? Do you have a roof over your head? Are your children being bombed/shot at?

No?

You’ll probably be fine then.

Greater Manchester tier 2 Town probably should have been tier 3.
People are not taking much notice of the existing lockdown so can't see them asking more notice of a worse lockdown.
Unfortunately think that if things get worse civil unrest is possible. No pubs no sport no money if you are employed in minimum wage job in hospitality or other knock on jobs like taxis as nobody going nowhere.
The last riots in Manchester/Salford area where allegedly about police killing a known suspect.
Actually it evolved into going on to market St and looting stuff from shops that sell what they wanted trainers sportswear etc.
Other shops left alone.

No my DC have loved the structure of going back to school and most importantly the relationships with their peers
Actually I probably didn't realise how big an impact peer interaction was on them until it was taken away.

I had to give up work due to total lack of childcare after the last lockdown and DP who had been made redundant had to take a job that means working away 4 days a week at least twice a month , so in terms of income we would be the same. However the interruption for DC would be a bit sould destroying for them. If the rate becomes too high in our area and it's to protect others we will of course comply but not until we have to and its backed by the actual rate (I'm in Essex so this is relevant they are trying to lock us down earlier than needed ).

Nope

No, I can't be that selfish. both and I WFH and I doesn't affect us, but I can't help but think about education, economy, people losing their jobs, people who are alone, people who have their mental health affected, etc.

@Badbadbunny

And stop bleating about ‘hardship’. Do you have food, even if it is from a food bank? Do you have a roof over your head? Are your children being bombed/shot at?

No?

You’ll probably be fine then.

My minimum expectations for standard of living and quality of life for my children and I are damn well higher than this! As are most people’s. So if you’re happy until you reach this point, fair enough.

No bloody way for me and my children

@Malachite234

Yes - 4 - 6 weeks and it should be more stringent than the last time with the military reinforcing the police.

But what happens when it starts to rise again, from, (1) people coming in from abroad from places it's still rife and (2) people in "essential" work such as hospitals, food chain, etc where it WILL continue to spread during lockdown.

My minimum expectations for standard of living and quality of life for my children and I are damn well higher than this! As are most people’s. So if you’re happy until you reach this point, fair enough.

No bloody way for me and my children

My minimum expectations are access to healthcare,food and staying alive.Anything above that is not as important

No I would not support it. Nor would I abide by it.

Dh and I work fulltime. 2 ds recent graduates, desperately looking for jobs, more and more disillusioned as the weeks roll by.

@user1497207191

Well borders should be closed during lockdown and if people want to travel they should be tested before and a couple of days after arrival ( isolate for 3 days- then same day results) at the expense of the traveller.

Then we go back to S.D and do a reset every time the numbers go up until we have found a vaccine. At least then businesses know what’s coming down the road.

Either that or just let it rip through the population. Allow people to calculate the risk themselves and support those who want to shield. The vaccine may never happen so we may be doing irreversible damage to the economy and delaying the inevitable.

People don’t want lockdown, they want to get back to normality, but also blame the government for the high numbers. They just wanted to be cared for by the government, yet don’t want to be managed.

@ThroughThickAndThin01

No I would not support it. Nor would I abide by it.

Dh and I work fulltime. 2 ds recent graduates, desperately looking for jobs, more and more disillusioned as the weeks roll by.

How could you not abide the rules if the military were patrolling ?