Hospital admissions nearly as high as just before lockdown

[frozendaisy]

Parking death rates as treatment is improving (thank you medics for continuing your research whilst the politicians spout out slogans).

But I have a gut feeling that at some point they will close schools again or go part time.

Our local cases have doubled in a week.

Just looking at the data particularly in Europe, this is a second wave now, the winter wave.

The problem as well is it's not winter yet, the clocks still haven't even gone back yet.

It's into December/January when the hospitals are really under strain in a normal year.

Where is the evidence of hospital admissions?

Articles on guardian or BBC sites

I find this hard to believe! I am in a hospital and we have a handful on a ward, none very seriously ill, and none in ICU last I heard.
I didn't see this on BBC website either but happy to be corrected....

@Honorocarrollkelly

Are all admissions tested for Covid? Just wondering if the Covid cases are in because of other reasons and then reported as a Covid admission. I know it is happening in some hospitals.

I heard that hospital admissions in manchester are as high as they were in April. I think the problem is that the overall figures across the country are low so you do get hospitals with hardly any admissions but in some parts of the country they are high (although it's possible that admissions in Manchester in March/April weren't as high as in London then).

Where are you?

It’ll be different in different areas.

London deaths are very low for example but not sure what hospitalisations are doing.

From BBC

What article are you looking at?

Yes, all admisssions and all outpatients are now tested for covid.
What we have is people coming to hospital with a bleed/broken bone/injury etc. They need to be admitted and turns out they have covid.
My friend works in Covid A&E and she says they hardley ever have a known covid patient turn up that is now becoming ill with it. Very rare at the minute.
I'm in NI.

The data is here: coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

BBC has breakdown by area

NW 208 v London 27

I saw that as well Marsha.

www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-54441133?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16020935387633&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

Admissions as high as early June when they were far, far lower than they had previously been.

Our local hospital is very quiet apparently

I'm in Belgium. We're a couple of weeks ahead of U.K. and on nearly 100 hospitalisations a day. Serious concerns here.

We had 2944 patients in hospital in England today with Covid.
One week ago on 30/9/20 it was 1958.
One week before that on 23/9/20 it was 1381.
One week before that on 16/9/20 it was 894.

On 20/3/20 there were 1541 patients in hospital in England with Covid.

We had 376 patients in mechanical ventilation beds with Covid today.
One week ago on 30/9/20 it was 281.
One week before that on 23/9/20 it was 192.
One week before that on 16/9/20 it was 107.

Deaths usually lag ICU admissions by a couple of weeks.

So yes, definitely going up. I've only posted data from England because the different countries record differently.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

Very busy here. ICU northwest

Yes you are tested regularly in hospital, and tested before discharge. My trust had less than 5 the last shift I was on. I think there needs to be some separation of statistics now: those who are in hospital WITH CV and those in hospital BECAUSE OF CV ... the last bay I looked after with query covid/covid pos cases were in for other reasons and were symptomless (genuinely)

@Stradivari

Yes you are tested regularly in hospital, and tested before discharge. My trust had less than 5 the last shift I was on. I think there needs to be some separation of statistics now: those who are in hospital WITH CV and those in hospital BECAUSE OF CV ... the last bay I looked after with query covid/covid pos cases were in for other reasons and were symptomless (genuinely)

Would these people then be counted in the daily hospital admissions data?

Do it's largely admissions with covid, rather than admissions for covid?

@Stradivari

Yes you are tested regularly in hospital, and tested before discharge. My trust had less than 5 the last shift I was on. I think there needs to be some separation of statistics now: those who are in hospital WITH CV and those in hospital BECAUSE OF CV ... the last bay I looked after with query covid/covid pos cases were in for other reasons and were symptomless (genuinely)

Is this consistent across other hospitals / trusts?

@Stradivari

Yes you are tested regularly in hospital, and tested before discharge. My trust had less than 5 the last shift I was on. I think there needs to be some separation of statistics now: those who are in hospital WITH CV and those in hospital BECAUSE OF CV ... the last bay I looked after with query covid/covid pos cases were in for other reasons and were symptomless (genuinely)

@Stradivari, I think a reasonable separation would be to look at the numbers in ICU?

I mean including the numbers in the data

@CokeEnStock

I'm in Belgium. We're a couple of weeks ahead of U.K. and on nearly 100 hospitalisations a day. Serious concerns here.

Well we are at close to 400 a day and the moment