Why aren’t the government doing more?! Are they trying to achieve herd immunity?!

[bootsandcats08]

Why the heck aren’t the government doing more? Don’t you think it’s getting ridiculous now?!

UK to has had the highest cases in Europe!
Are we supposed to just live like RBI’s now? Accept it?!

Surely this is much much worse than in March and back then a lockdown was imposed!! Why aren’t they doing more?!

Are they trying to just achieve some sort of herd immunity???

If we have a continuous cycle of locking and unlocking, during the unlocking phases could we open up music venues, nightclubs, have all the weddings and parties then? ... so we at least have some joyous things to look forward to?

Lockdown obviously decreases numbers.

I’ve not seen 2/3 reduction in 2 weeks. Has any country achieved this?

It takes time to reduce cases. Hence why we had restrictions for so long.

Musical,

I really hope (and think) that we will get a vaccine soon.

If not, I guess each cycle of locking and unlocking we do get closer to natural herd immunity. And therapies will improve (they are already).

I think a lockdown to get the virus down to levels where track and trace can cope. Herd immunity approach would overwhelm the NHS.

Marsha,

I think 2/3 in 3 weeks. R in lockdown was about 0.7 (hard lockdown would be even lower). Average incubation =5days, so in 15 days 0.7^3=0.343, so 65.7% reduction, roughly 2/3.

I think 2/3 in 3 weeks. R in lockdown was about 0.7 (hard lockdown would be even lower). Average incubation =5days, so in 15 days 0.7^3=0.343, so 65.7% reduction, roughly 2/3

Don't think this adds up, average incubation is not the average time you're infectious for, that's longer, also R only gets down to 0.7 once you've gone through the household infections, before then - in the initial days it remains higher. You won't get 3 generations in 15 days, you'll get barely more than one which is why you isolate for 14 days won't you?

If you are so worried no one is stopping you staying home and doing your own lockdown

Sir fred George - the argument is: on the one hand it is possible to end up like Wuhan, Italy, New York. Because it has happened.

You need to balance risk of this with risk of lockdown. A cautious approach would lockdown first and release restrictions slowly because it is asymmetric - number of corona cases/deaths rises much more quickly than cases/deaths due to lockdown. Waiting is not neutral - it is risky by doing nothing

People who aren’t at much risk nor are their families really do like to down play this virus. People with nothing to lose, who won’t know the pain of losing a close loved one.

God I hope so

@CallmeFP

People who aren’t at much risk nor are their families really do like to down play this virus. People with nothing to lose, who won’t know the pain of losing a close loved one.

Of course, because nobody knew 'the pain of losing a close loved one' before Covid came along.

@CallmeFP

People who aren’t at much risk nor are their families really do like to down play this virus. People with nothing to lose, who won’t know the pain of losing a close loved one.

You might not know but people died of other things before Covid and still do. Losing loved ones has happened to us all. Don’t be so patronising.

People who aren’t at much risk nor are their families really do like to down play this virus. People with nothing to lose, who won’t know the pain of losing a close loved one.

Firstly, most people have lost a loved one during their lives. People sadly die for many reasons.

Secondly, in my experience a lot of older people (>75 age) are very keen for the younger generations to get on with their lives. They actively want their grandchildren to go to school, Uni or work, or go out socialising. They are happy to be more cautious themselves.

If we have another lockdown a lot of the public will know that the reason for it is because track and trace has failed because they outsourced it to their mates instead of to ppl who know what they are doing.

So ppl will be locked down as a result of Tories wanting to profit from a pandemic. THERE is your civil unrest.