People STILL not wearing masks on London buses

[custard6543]

I had to take a journey by bus earlier. There were about 10 people on the bus, three of whom were not wearing masks. Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks - these selfish passengers are putting everyone else’s lives at risk!

You should put them all in the stocks and throw tomatoes.

Feeling traumatised does not make you less likely to infect others. Your right not to feel upset does not trump the right of someone else not to be infected.
Asthma is not a reason not to wear a mask full stop.
The entitlement on this thread is so strange.

I mask up because I am law-abiding. However, masks do very little other than provide a panacea. When worn properly and in conjunction with other measures, they may have a very small effect, but there is really no need for this overwhelming fear that if someone is mask-less, we're all going to get Covid and die.
There really are other illnesses and disabilities - physical as well as mental, for those who seem to think that mental illness is somehow "just an excuse" and so doesn't count - apart from Covid, many of which are considerably more life-changing and/or deadly, so a little less censure and a little more calmness wouldn't go amiss.

It’s not just one maskless person though, is it? Lots of people here think they’re special.

It’s not just one maskless person though, is it? Lots of people here think they’re special.

This is true and its not just in London

I'm in one of local lockdown areas, Grt Man/West Yorks type area in the north. We've been in local lockdown for months. Cases are rising rapidly here ATM but it's no surprise because as far as i can see, NO ONE here gives a flying fuck about the restrictions

People are not wearing masks, not social distancing, visiting households they aren't supposed to, packed into pubs and other indoor places. It's just carry on regardless. It's no different to how it was in February and all they do everytime there is a social media news report is comment a mixture of "its Gov't fault innit", irrelevant nonsense about numbers/cases (missing thebpoit that its rising) or drivel verging on conspiracy theories

@HitchikersGuide do you have any sources to back up your information? Frankly, no one here said wearing a mask provides immunity to COVID, nor did anyone say they would immediately “get COVID and die” by being near someone else so your post is highly hyperbolic.

There was a man on a train I was just on with a cold (sneezing, profusely coughing, sniffling, clearing throat etc). He wasn’t wearing a mask. I’d imagine that he’d spread his germs to less people had he actually been wearing a mask, especially as it was a long distance train with over 30 minutes between stops. It would have been common courtesy and a sign of respect for others had he worn one whilst being ill. He may have had an exemption but that doesn’t mean I should happily accept his germs.

@PennyDreadfuI

I see people every day not wearing them and 90% are male. Like fuck are they disabled or rape victims. Or victims of an incredibly rare condition. They are just selfish cunts

Well done for writing one of the most ignorant, ableist posts I've ever seen on MN.

If I was exempt and couldn't wear a mask you wouldn't get me on public transport or in a shop for love nor money. I would do anything and I do mean anything to avoid that. Not wearing a mask isn't a lovely freedom. A perk. It's risking your life and that of others

Unfortunately we still need to earn money/get to medical appointments/take DC to school and so on. We don't get on the bus for fun. How would you avoid having to earn a living, precisely?

I have zero sympathy with the special snowflakes who don't wear masks. Here in Italy, the rule is "wear a fucking mask or stay at home". And guess what? Everyone wears a fucking mask, even the six year olds. Get over yourselves and wear one. Asthma is a shit excuse, past trauma is a shit excuse. In real life, most people think you are being a selfish piece of shit, and they're right

Thanks for calling me a selfish piece of shit. Most people don't think that, incidentally, because most people have a modicum of decency and empathy. As usual, though, it's the ignorant, nasty pieces of work who shout the loudest, and that's why I get so much abuse when out and about.

Oh, and Italy absolutely do have exemptions, so that's your ridiculous argument fucked.

If you think that's the most 'ableist' post on here, you must have missed the numerous posts across this forum banging on about how the millions of vulnerable to Covid disabled people should just accept their 'time to die' and 'let Covid rip through' because someone doesn't want to go a few weeks without visiting their mum (someone else's vulnerable mum - or child - is of course, to these people, expendable).

It's very very wrong to imply that not wearing masks is a disabled issue. It's rather offensive really, since the vast majority of disabled people are more in need of the protection of masks than anyone else.

Only a tiny tiny minority of people are genuinely unable to wear a mask. Millions and millions of disabled people can and do - and actually really need them worn by others.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be empathy for the tiny minority of genuinely exempt people. I was more commenting on how you must've avoided (quite sensibly) the masses of semi fascist posts here - on other threads, directed towards the elderly and disabled. If you want shocking and ableist, those are the posts to look at. I'd recommend against reading them actually. They're very unpleasant. Leave a bad taste in the mouth.

@SheepandCow It's very very wrong to imply that not wearing masks is a disabled issue. It's rather offensive really, since the vast majority of disabled people are more in need of the protection of masks than anyone else.

Only a tiny tiny minority of people are genuinely unable to wear a mask. Millions and millions of disabled people can and do - and actually really need them worn by others.

Exactly. One mask equals some protection. Not perfect but better than nothing. But they don't fit properly so you do end up breathing unfiltered air. If that air comes from a non mask wearing person any viruses it contains won't be filtered out. Hence it's important that if you can you do.

Society can tolerate the small number of exemptions because it's fairly unlikely they will be in the same place at the same time.

Also if I see a group of men standing around or travelling/shopping together and laughing/chatting then I'm going to assume they don't have ASD.

But equally I wouldn't want my ASD child to risk catching it or being assaulted by travelling on public transport without one.

I want one of these.
LED face mask that lights up with moving mouth shapes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-52944499

I'm holding out for Christmas masks. Just had a quick google and there's loads!!

Don't know why but this one caught my eye ..

Oh that's lovely! I do like a Christmas reindeer 🦌. I'm excited for Christmas masks now.

I am going to try and find one with a Santa beard stuck on. I know they exist. Everything exists these days.

Dangerous AF with the fake hair getting all kinds of stuff in it but nothing a spray sanitiser won't fix! But I do think Christmas masks will be a hit. That's if anyone's allowed out 😁

They likely have a reason. I also live here and 95% have worn masks m. Don't be ableist

@Defenbaker

It's usually men who don't wear masks, often young men, from what I've seen. I think that it's unlikely they are all exempt, so they are just being selfish/careless.

It's annoying but the bus drivers have a hard enough job without challenging everyone who flouts the rules. Also, many of these people will wear the mask when getting on the bus, then sit at the back and take it off, so the driver won't easily spot them.

Just do what you can to stay safe OP, it's not worth wasting your energy on. Some of these selfish types wil only learn the hard way, when they become very ill themselves, or someone close to them dies.

Disagree. I'm 25 and all my male friends have always worn a mask. The people I see not wearing them are 50+ women and 60+ men.

Can we just agree that people of all ages can be irresponsible? The five people on the last bus I went on who were not wearing masks were all, I'd say, in their twenties (four men, one woman). The two wearing masks with their noses hanging out were both elderly men. The two of us wearing masks properly were women in their fifties. These ages and proportions will change on every instance.

ArcheryAnnie posted:

"Can we just agree that people of all ages can be irresponsible?"

@ArcheryAnnie Yes, agreed.

@Defenbaker

ArcheryAnnie posted:

"Can we just agree that people of all ages can be irresponsible?"

@ArcheryAnnie Yes, agreed.

Me too. I agree.

Here's the latest mask on my shopping list.
Unfortunately it's out of stock.
spaceaustralia.com.au/products/arse-face-mask
ARSE - Australian Research and Space Exploration.

@Coronawireless

Feeling traumatised does not make you less likely to infect others. Your right not to feel upset does not trump the right of someone else not to be infected. Asthma is not a reason not to wear a mask full stop. The entitlement on this thread is so strange.

The things some people type out with a straight face... I get second hand embarrassment.

I have an exemption and no, I will not wear a mask, and yes, I will still go to the shop and on public transport and other places. You know why? Because my medical issues do not disappear where your fear of covid begins.

I feel embarrassed for you too.

And hope you don’t stand too close to someone vulnerable.

It's not a "fear" of covid, it's a risk of covid.

The north is about to be almost entirely locked down because some people thought that they were exempt from everything and Covid wasn't real.

People are getting more and more risky with this and it will end badly. The neighbours of an employee have just tested positive for it. As has a supplier and his wife. The neighbours got it from their early 20s daughter. In fact several of the cases I personally know of have been in a very nice part of London of parents catching it from their uni aged/early 20s kids.

You can get it from anyone. And it could be just a few days or it could be a collapsed lung. Its all just a big roulette and with posters slamming others for wanting them to take precautions and assuming that anyone who does is exempt it's no wonder it's going up.

As Annie says it's a risk not as fear. I'm moderately scared of spiders (big ones). Will one kill me? No. That's a fear. I'm concerned about catching Covid. Because it actually does happen.

ts all just a big roulette

Some of us just call it 'life'. I never heard that it came with a guarantee.