People STILL not wearing masks on London buses

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I had to take a journey by bus earlier. There were about 10 people on the bus, three of whom were not wearing masks. Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks - these selfish passengers are putting everyone else’s lives at risk!

No mask, no service, the end

Because suddenly it's ok to discriminate against the disabled/those with health conditions.

This thread is already going the same way all threads on this topic go. It's sickening.

The bus drivers aren't actually allowed to enforce the mask rule. They can ask but that's it. Some will refuse to let you travel but a police officer friend told me that the TFL drivers can't actually enforce it.

JKRowlingIsMyQueen where, specifically did the Op discriminate? Or did you just assume?

@Youngatheart00

I’d be really pissed off at this too.

Those with genuine exemptions are in a tiny minority. I’ve seen a couple of people over the past 3 months with lanyards on which identifies that exemption.

There are some people who don’t give a shit about others and see it as some badge of honour to ‘get one over on society’ by not following the rules. Makes me v annoyed indeed.

FYI, you don't have to wear a lanyard if you're exempt. Also, they're available to anyone. So it's perfectly likely that those you saw wearing them were selfish anti mask types who make life harder for everyone, and the people without lanyards may have been genuinely exempt.

See? Your judgement was wasted.

@FTMF30

The media/government have really done a number OP. Do you teally think your life has been put at risk because three people on your bus weren't wearing masks?

What do you think 29 bus drivers died of? Scotch mist?

@Theworldisfullofgs

JKRowlingIsMyQueen where, specifically did the Op discriminate? Or did you just assume?

She claims that disabled people should not be allowed on public transport.

@RubyViolet

It’s so unfair isn’t it. I get such anxiety that l have to get off the bus. Sometimes l feel it is an act of aggression, it’s just a mask it isn’t hard to wear it. Rather a mask then a ventilator mask. ( Does not include people with genuine medical reasons who can’t wear masks.)

But how do you know who's genuine and who isn't?

And no, if you're exempt you don't have to wear a lanyard, so don't say 'exempt people wear lanyards'.

@JKRowlingIsMyQueen

Op stop discriminating towards disabled people, it's disgusting. There are plenty of reasons they could be exempt, asthma, autism, rape, abuse etc. etc.

If you're so scared stay home and hide behind your sofa.

You are disgusting for accusing someone of discrimination when OP hasn't said anything that is discriminating.

To be fair if there were only 10 people on the bus and three without masks I would imagine it was very easy to avoid being anywhere near them.

Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks

Oh please. As if ALL these people had exemptions! Stop putting other people’s lives at risk and wear a mask.

Both discrimatory statements.

You are disgusting for accusing someone of discrimination when OP hasn't said anything that is discriminating.

The OP said no one should be allowed on public transport without a mask. It's well known that the majority of those exempt from mask wearing fall into the category of having a disability. How is wanting to prevent these people using public transport not an example of discrimination??

JKRowlingIsMyQueen

Where did they say that because I can't see it. As far as I can tell you are putting words in their mouth.

@Theworldisfullofgs @Char2015

The OP was discriminatory when she said

Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks

Doing so would bar those who are exempt due to disability/health conditions from travel, so is discriminatory.

Thing is now though most non mask wearers know full well that they won’t be challenged. I’ve been in London today - vast majority wearing masks, but a fair number of young males man-spreading on the tube without one on. Who’s going to politely ask them anything? No one. I hate wearing a mask, but I just crack on because it’s the right thing to do. Non mask wearers are fortunate - bit like anti-vaxers- that most people aren’t selfish fuckers. And yes I know some people are exempt and some just don’t fancy the irritation of wearing one

[quote PennyDreadfuI]**@Theworldisfullofgs* @Char2015*

The OP was discriminatory when she said

Drivers need to stop letting people on without masks

Doing so would bar those who are exempt due to disability/health conditions from travel, so is discriminatory.[/quote]
OP acknowledged people have exemptions though - they didn't say people with exemptions should not be let on.

Since Thursday I've been on 2 trains, four buses and 1 coach. Every non mask wearer was a man. Most in their 20s.

So unless this is coincidence, there is a high incidence of men with disabilities.

OP acknowledged people have exemptions though - they didn't say people with exemptions should not be let on.

But those with exemptions won't be wearing a mask and she also said anyone not wearing a maks shouldn't be allowed onto the bus? Admitting some people are exempt doesn't change the fact she thinks they shouldn't be allowed on the bus.

I don’t believe for one minute the op is discriminating against anyone

Perhaps those that say she is can explain why the people she saw are disabled in some way?

No because you can’t because YOU dont know and are making assumptions, just as you say the op is

I have no doubt some maybe exempt, but I also bet some were not

Was on a London bus yesterday. I got on, plenty of room, and then three stops later it was packed. People standing cramped downstairs. Half were wearing masks, the rest either weren't or had a mask around their necks or hanging from an ear. I got off and had to wait ages for another one.

All this profound faith in masks as the One True Thing That Will Save Us would be quite touching if it didn't turn so many people into complete arseholes.

Masks probably help a bit in some circumstances. That's all.

Wear your own mask, mind your own business.

I travel on train towards a city with high Covid rates. Sometimes around 30% of people on my train are without masks. I know some are able to wear them but don't. I feel for those who genuinely can't wear a mask. The selfish refusers with no medical condition are putting others at risk - especially the medical vulnerable who often cannot wear a mask. It's all very well telling people who are afraid, to stay at home, but people have commitments. Sometimes when the trains are busy, I'm worried. When I hear groups loudly exclaiming that there's no chance they'll wear one, it's all nonsense blah, blah - it makes me angry. But I'm not allowed to say anything to anyone for fear of offending. When I'm close to twenty high school students without as mask, I feel worried and disappointed. When the usual group of drug misusers vibe in with no masks, I doubt nice for fear of confrontation. So I'll just shut up and hope I'm not breathed on by a Covid mask refuser. As for the suggestion of since form of proof add to why you can't wear, why not? Surely by not wearing a mask you are showing that you're unable to because of a medical condition, anyway? What's so wrong with asking for a lanyard or some form of proof? Then those who genuinely can't wear a mask have at least some protection from those who are just selfish tw*ts.

@TinySleepThief

Oh great another opinionated idiot with no empathy who thinks those with exemptions should all lock themselves away and never go out!!!

It's quite interesting how many of those oppressed exempt people on the bus scrabble around in their bags and find a mask to put on when I quietly stifle my post covid cough a couple of times from my seat directly behind them.

I am exempt and do not need to wear a mask. However, I DO wear one, and just avoid public transport and only spend the bare minimum time in shops.

Why?

Because I don't want to be causing someone anxiety thinking they're going to catch something off me.

FWIW I had covid in April .. BUT I also always have a bit of a cough, so there's no way I'm walking round supermarkets coughing (occasionally only) with no mask on. I wouldn't do that out of respect to the other people around me.

IMO there are plenty of things you can do without a mask if you don't want to wear one, but there are also ways around going into shops and things if you don't/can't wear a mask for whatever reason.

I'm not really sure about how effective masks are, but I wear them for the peace of mind for other people rather than anything else, and THAT is worth the discomfort I feel for the duration.

@TinySleepThief

OP acknowledged people have exemptions though - they didn't say people with exemptions should not be let on.

But those with exemptions won't be wearing a mask and she also said anyone not wearing a maks shouldn't be allowed onto the bus? Admitting some people are exempt doesn't change the fact she thinks they shouldn't be allowed on the bus.

"OP thinks that people that are exempt should not be on the bus" Oh, are you a mind-reader now? OP did not say that people that are exempt should not be allowed on the bus. You are quite clearly twisting OPs words and putting words into their mouth .. that is really unfair.

I am exempt and do not need to wear a mask. However, I DO wear one

You're not exempt then are you?